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2008/05/19 17:07:47 (permalink)
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Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?)

Hi, currently do Judo (2nd Kyu under new BJA grading) but hopefully gonna get 1st kyu in July ... hopefully.

Anyway, once I reach Dan grade I doubt I'll progress much more, I'm very aware of injuries you sustain at higher levels and my gym must come first.

I want to become a better fighter all round, and eventually move into MMA, so looking at something to compliment judo.

Now, I'm strong, muscley, but not that flexible, nor am I likely to ever be. Don't fancy spending hours doing the splits.

I want to get my striking up to par. So am after a martial art. I don't want to go down the boxing route, I fancy doing a proper martial art, but that said, I know some of them spend hours on the details of techniques. I like something based more on fighting than hours of katas.

I know a Tao-kwon-do IV dan instructor so may try that, but was wondering what MA would best suit me. Ideally punches, knees, elbows and low kicks - but Japanese style.

Any ideas?

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    IFS PAUL
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 17:45:25 (permalink)
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    Mauy thai mate - the only striking i would recommend for mma. You should pick it up fast. For me tao-kwon-do has too many fancy kicks that leave you open plus mauy thai clinch work is priceless and can lead you on to your judo takedowns and ground game
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 17:47:00 (permalink)
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    If you want a proper fighting art i would stay away from TKD its good and looks impressive but having fought an mma match against some who was a of a high standard it wasnt very effective looked good butwasnt that effecive against a double leg set up off a bloomin hard right hook and my stand up is pretty crap. You will transion to BJJ very easily from a judo background as most of is the same anything to do with takedown i also expect you would be very familiar with. Persoanlly if i were you i would just go for muai thai or soemthing like that with the occaisional grappling session thrown in


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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 17:47:06 (permalink)
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    Sorry its not japanese but its the best striking art - well in my opinion anyhow :)
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 19:32:30 (permalink)
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    Tae Kwon do is Korean ...

    I'm a 3rd degree blackbelt in the martial art - If you want to improve on your striking then this is a good martial art for it, however, you will have a syllabus to learn (unless you go to a dedicated fighting school)

    I have also trained in boxing, muay thai, kickboxing and aikido, for all round striking (including knees, elbows etc) and training dedicated for that, i'd suggest Muay Thai.

    p.s - Tae Kwon do is very effective for MMA stand up, if that's all you have done though, going to the ground will be very tough.
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 21:15:07 (permalink)
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    Cheers guys. I'm not sure if there is a muat thai club around here, we're quite limited. No aikido (that I know of), a couple of karates, no jj or bjj ... which was why I thought of TKD.

    leroy - ground not a problem 'cos of my Judo

    Guess I can give it a try and see

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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 22:21:04 (permalink)
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    Sorry mate i forgot about the judo ...

    Well, if you could find a TKD club dedicated (or primarily) sparring focused, i would definetly say give it a chance. I always like to try a new art as i believe you can learn something from each, no matter how small.
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 22:29:03 (permalink)
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    I did japanese jiu-jitsu and I really enjoyed, plus you might take to it quite easy as it has some elements of judo in it
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 22:29:15 (permalink)
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    That's true mate. The judo instructor is a mate, he teaches me SDF (self defence, modern street combat) so may be worth giving it a whirl. Nothing to lose ... except a few teeth, LOL

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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/19 22:37:13 (permalink)
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    this might piss some people off here but i think TKD will be pretty poor for you to use to move into mma type training

    and by pretty poor i mean really poor

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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 12:59:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: PikeKing

    this might piss some people off here but i think TKD will be pretty poor for you to use to move into mma type training

    and by pretty poor i mean really poor




    I would agree with this. As an art on it's own I'm sure it's very fun and entertaining but to be brought into an MMA environment against an accomplished Boxing or Muay Thai fighter? I dunno....rather you than me.

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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 13:04:25 (permalink)
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    Just to clarify that an MMA I do will be purely recreational and for my own personal gain. I like to be able to fight, and will be doing MMA style of fighting ultimately for enjoyment

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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 13:31:03 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: wiffers

    Just to clarify that an MMA I do will be purely recreational and for my own personal gain. I like to be able to fight, and will be doing MMA style of fighting ultimately for enjoyment


    Ah, I got the impression you were looking to compete. If it's just for fun I don't think it really matters what art you pick, I would still go with others and recommend Muay Thai as the daddy of all stand up striking arts.

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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 15:08:57 (permalink)
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    WIFFERS-i just started a jjj class mate,and tbh traditional martial arts striking techniqes are not much use at the side of a proper striking based sport/ma.im looking at boxing again or muay thai/kickboxing.

    though,if you can get on sherdog.com,there is a lad in the striking forum who is a tkd competitor,he had some vids up of him doing bag work using tkd kicks,and if youre not actually going to fight mma,then you can make it work,his power is fkin amazing on some pretty crazy spinning axe kicks and stuff,but flexibility will be needed.
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 20:29:41 (permalink)
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    wiffers have you considered kungfu, i know here we have lau-gar, wing-chun and wu-tang styles available, the sticky hands straight punches etc from wing chun would be great in enclosed spaces when you're on the doors.

    as you mention your interest is purely to learn another style, TKD is as good as any, and there is a lot of it around here locally as you know

    combined with the SDF stuff you do, which should cover a lot of clinch tactics, you should have all the bases covered

    i know of a good muay thai guy working in salisbury now who is looking to get back into teaching, so that may appear in the future
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 20:31:46 (permalink)
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    Cool mate - where are the kungfu classes?

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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 20:35:15 (permalink)
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    as far as I know wing chun and lau gar are both at sarum 76, the wu-tang is taught in the cricket pavillion at bishopdown farm i think
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 20:45:08 (permalink)
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    May look into that then mate - thanks

    Want my Dan in Judo before I take things further really tho

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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 20:51:41 (permalink)
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    do you get to fight for your brown belt?
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    RE: Which MA (Tao-kwon-do?) 2008/05/20 21:35:58 (permalink)
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    tell you what wiffers , you godda be on the ball to get that blackbelt - poor bastards at the last grading doing a lineup against 3 other blackbelts and having to win one after the other
    good old kick boxing will complement your throwing/grappling judo skills

     
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