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2009/07/31 15:44:30 (permalink)
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Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best?

Im going to purchase a new protein, creatine and fat burner as I used to use +90 Protein, Body  Fortress Creatine and Animal Cuts. Can anyone advise me the best supps out there?

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    Icemansoldier
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 16:47:36 (permalink)
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    Depends what type your looking for mate a protein blend or just whey? If creatine mono worked for you stick with it, its cheap.
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 16:51:21 (permalink)
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    Yeah, i use Boditronics, great tasteing protein, even better results. 
    Stick with your Aminal cuts, and as a fat burner, my mate takes BSN Thermonex, he is always going on about how great it works for him, so must be a good product to try.
    Hope this helps????  
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 17:03:10 (permalink)
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    Shanepbarr

    Im going to purchase a new protein, creatine and fat burner as I used to use +90 Protein, Body  Fortress Creatine and Animal Cuts. Can anyone advise me the best supps out there?


    Body Fortress - Oh No!

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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 17:07:17 (permalink)
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    Shanepbarr

    Im going to purchase a new protein, creatine and fat burner as I used to use +90 Protein, Body  Fortress Creatine and Animal Cuts. Can anyone advise me the best supps out there?


     
    Nutrisport 90+ is quite a poor quality protein IMO, hence why it's SO cheap...   I would go for either Reflex, Boditronics Wheys...   Boditronics does a good all round Express Whey, but it's up to you...
     
    Animal cuts is a decent enough fat burner.
     
    Icemansoldier is right Creatine Monohydrate is cheap, but that is deceptive.  Monohydrate is water soluable, meaning you'll pee out what you don't use (much the same as Vit C), whereas Creatine Ethyl Ester has been designed and manufactured to be fat soluable, meaning it'll stay within you're system longer.
     
    So whilst it's more expensive, you could argue it's better value - although I'll conceed that unless you're measuring the creatine content in your pee, it is perhaps, realistically, not something you can moniter...        
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 18:33:54 (permalink)
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    Try mono then cee and see whihc one works best for you, some prefer mono some prefer cee, you wont know till you try it.

    I doubt nutrisport is poor mate lots of people use the stuff and its a nice mix of whey and casien.
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 18:39:39 (permalink)
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    Growbaby - what would be wrong with BF creatine?
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 19:09:28 (permalink)
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    Bulk Powders 80% whey, Bulk Powders creatine monohydrate, and forget the fat burner, there isn't one.
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 19:33:21 (permalink)
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    Best Creatine i have had so far was when i was in Germany and taking All-Stars Zell Tech (Awesome Stuff)

    Best Proteins are ON Gold Standard Whey and All Stars Nitro Tech

    Havent been on any fat burner so could not give an idea on that tho one of my friends was on animal cuts and said the amount of tablets you have to take does make you sick.
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/07/31 22:31:05 (permalink)
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    No offence this is to everyone, there is no best protein, creatine or fat burner, not everyone responds to the supplements that works for everyone else, all you can do is recommend what worked for you, just thought i would put that out there.
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 09:55:18 (permalink)
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    Icemansoldier

    Try mono then cee and see whihc one works best for you, some prefer mono some prefer cee, you wont know till you try it.

    I doubt nutrisport is poor mate lots of people use the stuff and its a nice mix of whey and casien.


    Well, Nutrisport one of the cheapest brands on the market - that just might have something to do with the fact so many people use it...  The fact that a lot of people use something means nothing in direct respect to it's quality...  
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 12:31:52 (permalink)
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    Actually alot of experienced members use it and know there stuff i doubt they would be taking protein powder if it was junk.
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 13:57:26 (permalink)
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    Icemansoldier

    Actually alot of experienced members use it and know there stuff i doubt they would be taking protein powder if it was junk.


    Well, whether or not you agree is irrelevant to be honest mate, it's common knowledge that Nutrisport themselves have come into question quite a few times over the quality of their 90+ range and the legitimacy of the claims they make of their product.
     
    For example, if a protein product contains Micellar Casein, how on earth can it have a 90% protein content?    Casein will always reduce the overall percentage of whey in the mixture because it is undernatured!
    The only way this would be possible would be if Nutrisport used a mix that was 95% (minimum) isolate - which would make the end product more expensive - too expensive to sell at the ridiculous prices they churn the likes of 5kg out for..  It's a paradox of a product, meaning it simply cannot fulfil it's claims...
     
    Whatever the case, it's certainly not a top product when you have Boditronics, Reflex and ON on the market...  
     
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 14:37:13 (permalink)
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    All i know its good value and i couldnt say for certain its quality is good or shi* you may be right, why not make a thread and raise the debate i would be interested in this.
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 15:02:09 (permalink)
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    Going to go with Ice Man on this one.

    There's plenty of members on MT that have built awesome physiques using 90+. I personally wouldn't use it as it's meant to taste really bad, but it's still a good product for a good price.


    "Why Climb a Mountain, when you can become one..."

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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 15:15:23 (permalink)
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    Icemansoldier

    All i know its good value and i couldnt say for certain its quality is good or shi* you may be right, why not make a thread and raise the debate i would be interested in this.


    Fair do's Iceman, I think I'll take you up on that one.  It'd be interesting to see the spectrum of opinion and maybe find out from some of those who know the manufacturing side of things too...
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 15:43:38 (permalink)
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    Icemansoldier

    All i know its good value and i couldnt say for certain its quality is good or shi* you may be right, why not make a thread and raise the debate i would be interested in this.


    Fair do's Iceman, I think I'll take you up on that one.  It'd be interesting to see the spectrum of opinion and maybe find out from some of those who know the manufacturing side of things too...


    I was looking into ordering 3 x 5KG tubs of protein for myself and a couple of lads from work and Nutrisport was mentioned to me.  I started a thread to gather some opinion and the spectrum of opinions in such a short thread was eye opening:
     
    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Nutrisport-90-protein-powder-m3511862.aspx
     
    We ended up going for a bulk order of MyProtein stuff instead as I've used their powder before - However, I'm sure I will try Nutrisport sometime in the future.  It's certainly value for money and I'm not clued-up enough to disect the ingredient quality.  There's a few comments with regard to the taste of certain flavours though.
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 16:08:56 (permalink)
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    Icemansoldier

    All i know its good value and i couldnt say for certain its quality is good or shi* you may be right, why not make a thread and raise the debate i would be interested in this.


    Fair do's Iceman, I think I'll take you up on that one.  It'd be interesting to see the spectrum of opinion and maybe find out from some of those who know the manufacturing side of things too...

    Well done Hulk,
     
    Thread has been added here...http://www.muscletalk.c...Percentage-m3530080.aspx
     
    Really interested in this too...
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 16:10:53 (permalink)
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    Yeah - Here's hoping the new thread gives us all the answers!
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    Re:Which Protein, Creatine and Fat Burner is best? 2009/08/03 16:42:53 (permalink)
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    Have to agree with Icemansoldier here yet again regarding the op's question:

    Whey - it really doesn't make that much difference what brand you use, the main thing will be price and flavour. As long as it has a decent amount of protein grammage per serving it will do the trick.

    Creatine - Use mono. If you don't respond to mono, only then take a look at the branded creatines, because although some do work better for some people than others, they can be a LOT more expensive than mono, so why change from mono if it's working for you.

    Fat Burner - I'm by no means an authority on fat burners, but I'm almost certain none of the legal ones will do anything.

    My point: brand is overrated, the supplements market is quite unregulated which means companies can just use marketing ploys to absolutely rape the consumer by simply putting things on the tub like 'GUARANTEED TO TURN YOU INTO DORIAN YATES IN 5 SECONDS DUE TO OUR PATENTED TOP SECRET ANABOLIC PROPRIETARY VOLUMIZATION MATRIX' or other such bullsh1t.

    "Be adequate"
     
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