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Who here does strategic deconditioning?

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2009/07/14 14:17:15 (permalink)

Who here does strategic deconditioning?

http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_artcls_stratdecon.html
 
never done it personally, really wouldn't fancy staying out the gym that long!!
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    hamiltonsfitness
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 14:40:22 (permalink)
    Just when you think you've heard every bit of bo**ocks!
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 14:59:53 (permalink)
    clearly your not a fan then HF?!?!
     
    Do u do any type of deload/ structured time off or just use the days off during the week?
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 15:27:51 (permalink)
    I train five days and then take two days off, but that's just because of the days that I'm in the gym "working".

    During the training year there are bound to be inevitable times when you have to rest so I use these, but get back to proper training as soon as possible, maybe no more that a week off at a time.
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 15:30:57 (permalink)
    I seem to have the same attitude as yourself HF however read many times that it is neccessary for progression.
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 15:35:29 (permalink)
    however read many times that it is neccessary for progression.


    If you keep looking you'll also see that it's necessary to eat more fat to lose fat and keep out of the gym to get stronger. You wonder where this type of cr*p gets thought up and why people fall for it.
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 15:39:22 (permalink)
    Doesn't sound very clever really.

    9-12 days off every 2 months? Seems like a lot of wasted sessions to me.

    I train 4 days a week, rest 3 days and I see myself gaining pretty well. If i feel particularly burnt out I may have one extra rest day but that's hardly ever.


    "Why Climb a Mountain, when you can become one..."

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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 16:05:03 (permalink)
    I would not consider the 9-12 days off every 2 months but deloading or total rest periods in general I suppose.

    My goal is gaining mass BTW as well not strength where I see more deloading weeks advised in my reading.
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 16:10:57 (permalink)
    I suppose lazy people looking for a fancy name for not bothering to train for a while would be keen on it.

    " I'm strategically deconditioning" sounds better than "sitting on my ar*e"
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 16:33:17 (permalink)
    Having a couple times a year off where you do nothing (e.g. a holiday) isnt going to do any harm. Always find its a decent break mentally more than physically.
    And deloading is very important with regards to long term progression, and is something people probably need to include.

    But taking 9-12 days off completely every 2months seems counter productive ( / not as effective) in my opinion.
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 16:36:37 (permalink)
    hamiltonsfitness

    I suppose lazy people looking for a fancy name for not bothering to train for a while would be keen on it.

    " I'm strategically deconditioning" sounds better than "sitting on my ar*e"


     
    I shall have to remember that one!
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 16:41:10 (permalink)
    instead of time off what about if u dropped back on the weight u lift every 6 weeks (with a slightly higher starting weight) and add bit by bit (approx 5%) every week like the principles of HST.

    This seems to give your muscles a break anyway as u won't be going near failure for a few weeks?

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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 16:48:17 (permalink)
    biggest load of **** i have read in many a year!
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 16:48:33 (permalink)
    as u won't be going near failure for a few weeks


    and you won't be making any progress for a few weeks.

    Bite the bullet and work hard, it's not complicated.
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 21:24:11 (permalink)
    hamiltonsfitness

    as u won't be going near failure for a few weeks


    and you won't be making any progress for a few weeks.

    Bite the bullet and work hard, it's not complicated.


    your preaching to the choir!!
     
    Just enquiring because I wanna make sure I'm bashing myself and being counter-productive
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 21:35:19 (permalink)
    hamiltonsfitness

    as u won't be going near failure for a few weeks


    and you won't be making any progress for a few weeks.

    Bite the bullet and work hard, it's not complicated.


    so u don't think u can progress with between 75% and 90% of your RM?
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    Re:Who here does strategic deconditioning? 2009/07/14 22:57:11 (permalink)
    I think deloading can be important in the long run, depending on how you train. Right now I take 1 week 'off' a month (3 on, 1 off), just go in, work up to 75% for a set of 5, do some prehab and leave.
     
    Ive only been doing this for 2 months, previously I just trainined whatever. It hasnt been long enough to make any definitive judgements just yet but I feel good at the moment, significantly less banged up than usual!
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