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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 10:32:55 (permalink)
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Times have changed TBH. Although I've been ingrained with the same beliefs Brett alluded to, somebody spitting in your face completely unprovoked... all bets are off. Social cohesion and antiquated ways of thinking such as the above only work in a society in which everybody holds the same to be true (similar values). If women wish to act like men, be confrontational like men or act like a piece of **** by spitting in the face of somebody twice their strength / size, then they should be treated like men. Having a vagina does not give you a free pass to do whatever you like to men without consequence. Sounds like the stupid bint got exactly what she deserved.



I agree mate. I just don't think I could TBH. I'd feel dirty after -like a kid stealing money out of their parents wallet lol. Then again I've not been spat in the eye before, so maybe I could live with myself!
 
Makes me think of the female militias of the world and if I was in the forces if I could shoot at them with a clear conscience. No doubt return fire would be pretty simple but shooting first? A woman? 
 
I think that's why they didn't like gay men in the army years ago... "I can't shoot him! He's gorgeous!'




I know what you mean and I'm still not entirely sure what I'd do in that situation - it would depend on the specifics, although I've been spat on twice in my life by blokes and I was unable to hold my composure (it did not go well for them). I'll be as polite and respectable as my upbringing allows so long as it's reciprocal, but I have a zero tolerance policy against disrespect and there's few things as disrespectful as spitting in someone's face.
 
There are two upsides to this story though
 
#1 If the idiot in this story has any survival instincts whatsoever, she will think twice about her actions in future. Especially actions against someone who could potentially kill her with a backhander. Maybe it was a sorely needed lesson.
 
#2 The more stories like this that surface, hopefully it reinforces to women that if you wish to be treated like ladies and not be exempt from the historical 'real men don't hit women' rule. Then you have to act like ladies. IF they choose to act like men or spit, kick and do whatever they like consequence free... then expect an ever growing trend of men treating you like men. Which typically means getting the **** kicked out of you for spitting in someone's face.
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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 11:30:27 (permalink)
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If she had spat in my face would have punched her full force no questions. As she effectively assaulted him first and he defended himself your probably;ly ok in the eyes of the law. 

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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 12:39:35 (permalink)
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She deserved it, but I wouldn't have hit her.... but only because you dont know how many white knights will be waiting to kick your head in for hitting her.

  




 
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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 14:11:14 (permalink)
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Definitely deserved it. Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she doesn't deserve a slap.
 
I probably couldn't do it myself because I'm a wimp, and would be subconsciously scared of any further retaliation. My anxiety would be through the roof, but there are many situations like this where I wish I could stand up to scumbags like that, man or woman.


admitting your a wimp is very hard , certainly the opposite of a wimp !  I know what you mean though im not too scared of retaliation but more so the escalation and future consequences, scared of bricks coming through your windows etc , you cant reason with some people , with your mind set you'll probably feel like a pussy but get a better outcome. There has been lots of ties where I have felt the same and regretted feeling like a wimp who gets walked all over and theres been times ive snapped and dealt with things and felt good there and then to have months or trouble and worries that followed!
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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 15:44:35 (permalink)
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Definitely deserved it. Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she doesn't deserve a slap.
 
I probably couldn't do it myself because I'm a wimp, and would be subconsciously scared of any further retaliation. My anxiety would be through the roof, but there are many situations like this where I wish I could stand up to scumbags like that, man or woman.


admitting your a wimp is very hard , certainly the opposite of a wimp !  I know what you mean though im not too scared of retaliation but more so the escalation and future consequences, scared of bricks coming through your windows etc , you cant reason with some people , with your mind set you'll probably feel like a pussy but get a better outcome. There has been lots of ties where I have felt the same and regretted feeling like a wimp who gets walked all over and theres been times ive snapped and dealt with things and felt good there and then to have months or trouble and worries that followed!


My solution to that is just playing it smart TBH. I evalute how much it has put my safety at risk. If its mere annoyance or inconvenience I usually let it slide. If it's something that could have actually damaged me or someone I love then prepare to be smacked.
 
I find the majority of life's woes tend to fit in the first category so then it really stops bothering me.
 
I think us men should band together and change the rule then: "Men shalt not hit ladies."

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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 15:49:35 (permalink)
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^ see that’s always been the rule in my eyes anyway which has sort of been touched on back and forth here

Don’t hit a *lady*

You want treated a certain way act that way, but if you have complete disregard for other people then when confronted on it, choose not only to stay ignorant but actually become aggressive and hideously disrespectful...don’t be surprised if some people retaliate 😐
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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 16:09:16 (permalink)
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Brett
 
 "Men shalt not hit ladies."



Agree with that !


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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 17:57:13 (permalink)
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Hmmm... if a bloke spat in my face I would be fully aware of the like for like physical threat that he could have and therefore would act accordingly depending on the context, assuming the threat of violence was now firmly in place and avoiding a confrontation was not an option I would want to get the first punch in most likely.
 
If a woman spat in my face, it would piss me off no end. However, I wouldn't not assume the same physical threat in that instant and would not likely punch her as a recourse, push her or chuck her out maybe but not punch as depending on the female I would more than likely assume I am under no risk of immediate. If she attempted to become physical in other ways then I would feel that defending myself physically would be required.
 
It's not a matter of fairness, it would be a matter of risk assessment to myself.... an aggressive man would present a greater risk than an aggressive female in most cases.
 
Many, many years ago in an inebriated state a young girl thru a drink over me and a mate, once outside I poured my remaining drink over her head. She came at me but I had no issue in holding her off. I didn't need to punch her or anything.... my mate who was with us (coincidentally over from Bronx New York) didn't see it the same way and picked her up and threw her out on the road with some gusto - in fairness his actions did see the situation end there and then whereas we may have continued our dance for several minutes had we been left to carry on

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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 18:06:59 (permalink)
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I think we are missing a key bit of information in all this... What did you order?



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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 18:12:05 (permalink)
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Lmfao ^ chicken and chips. Garlic sauce, obviously.

Dirty - he threw her into a road? Haha holy sh*t
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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 18:32:36 (permalink)
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Yeah, he didn't fvck about. He walked up, grabbed her and launched her. TBH, as I remember, it he didn't even look as his back was to the road when he grabbed her so was fortunate nothing was coming. He was ready for more if she wanted it but I guess coming from a rough New York neighbourhood he had a different mindset about it all

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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 19:06:54 (permalink)
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I totally understand the attitude of if a woman hits a man then she deserves a slap back however in this case she didn't hit, she spat so why could he not have just spat back in her face.....from my experience men are far better at spitting than women and can sum up some pretty nasty stuff.....I think that would have been a much better reaction and more fair...like for like!
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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 19:13:59 (permalink)
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Spunk over her face
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Re: Whoa...social incident discussion 2018/03/19 19:22:30 (permalink)
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I totally understand the attitude of if a woman hits a man then she deserves a slap back however in this case she didn't hit, she spat so why could he not have just spat back in her face.....from my experience men are far better at spitting than women and can sum up some pretty nasty stuff.....I think that would have been a much better reaction and more fair...like for like!


I don’t think I ever could spit at someone, even if they did to me.

Pummel them with my fists somewhat easily given the circumstance, ironically, but even if I was spat at, I don’t think I could retaliate in the same fashion...
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