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2018/05/15 20:55:19 (permalink)
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Would you take meds for work?

Bit of background, for the last 4 years I have worked in IT support, specifically in open office environments with lots of people and it is making me ill, every time I am in the office I get incredible stressed, anxious and depressed. I have struggled with it for ages now, hoping it will pass but it hasn't. I have changed jobs about 6 times in the 4 years (all doing the same role), just different companies. I have tried staying at companies for a couple of years, hoping I will get "used" to the place and get better, but it never happens.
 
On paper, my current place is great, good salary, lots of leave, flexible hours and I get to work from home, but  even out of work, I am still affected and not my normal self. I still feel stressed and anxious during the weekends (but much less so). If I binge drink on a sat night with mates, it's like my body resets itself, I am back to normal, no anxiety, then I walk back into the office Monday and it all comes flooding back. I need a full week or so off work to really return to normal, then I go back feeling great, walking in the office and am back to square one. 
 
I have been to the doctors and he has recommended anti-depressants, but I am unsure on whether to take them. On one hand they could magically cure everything. On the other, the side effects I have read about sound horrendous, increased anxiety for the first few weeks being the main one. If I get any more anxious I won't be able to leave the house. Part of me thinks should I really be messing with pills, when I know the answer is quitting work and finding a job that does not stress me out so much (obviously it's not that easy with mortgage and bills)? The job itself is not that stressful, yes I could do without dealing with numpties on the phone, but it is more due to the environment, my mind and body does not agree with being with so many people at once, forced to interact, not having my own space. 
 
TLDR; working in an open office is making me ill, take pills or quit and find something more suitable?
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/15 21:06:27 (permalink)
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they love handing out anti depressants , I bet he didn't even diagnose you , personally i would stay the f4ck away from those , they made me feel like a walking corpse emotionally dead and very suicidal .
 
Kratom is very helpful a few times a week ( i use daily but wouldn't recommend that to anyone )
Phenibut definitely helps with anxiety and mental performance . 
Booze always made my problems a lot worse so I avoid that always nowadays .
CBT to learn how to deal with your stress and put it in boxes and then put them away at the end f the day is very helpful even if you just google it alone .
If I ever get super stressed to the point of panic attacks and falling to pieces, I will use 10mg of diazepam , job sounds similar to yours , going through a messy divorce and stupidly decided to compete in bodybuilding so my mid isn't all there , but its a good distraction from everyday stress , only finding i have to use benzos once a week/fortnight. Good luck !
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/15 21:51:56 (permalink)
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As far as anti-depressants go I'm not sure which people get prescribed that cause so many side effects, I've been on sertraline during a rough time and it did take the edge off nicely, the only side effect I noticed was loss of libido. Which isn't something I'd want to live with but the way I see it the meds are a short term solution while you work on getting to the root cause of the problem.
 
If you need the job I would say take the meds while you look for something different.
 
Benzodiazepines are a good quick fix for anxiety but they make you very groggy, they are essentially tranquilizers. I would not take them during the day or you'll be falling asleep on the job.
post edited by Uriel - 2018/05/15 21:54:14
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/16 09:04:29 (permalink)
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Beta blockers are good for anxiety, such as Propranolol. I never noticed any negative side effects, other than your heart rate slowing down slightly, which is what they are supposed to do. They are fairly mild so you can come off them and go back onto them whenever you want. Just take as and when.
 
As you probably already know though they are not the complete answer.
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/16 09:23:38 (permalink)
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Benzodiazepines are a good quick fix for anxiety but they make you very groggy, they are essentially tranquilizers. I would not take them during the day or you'll be falling asleep on the job.


If you stay very low dosage you should be ok , 2mg-5 of diazepam takes the edge off for a good 8-12 hours , 15mg will see me getting groggy and wanting to go to sleep but its not a good long term solution , but I would say the same with any meds. 
 
Really not a fan of antidepressants , I find them more of severe depressants and find myself feeling like a different person , its not as if a doctor can climb inside your body and feel the effects or physically see if they are working or not , they scare me sh1tless knowing how bad/suicidal they made me feel and the docs didn't seem to understand what I was telling them , my mind was that far gone that its not as if you can reason with yourself to say ill come off and get back to feeling like i was before , luckily I did but I could have quite easily done myself in .
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/16 13:21:54 (permalink)
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If you had a broken leg you wouldn't just take crutches and hope it heals up. Imo mental health is no different you need to address the root cause and seek out appropriate options be it CBT, counselling, new job and or combination of meds. All taking AD will do is mask the problem till a later date at which point it comes crashing down in a biblical way and causes irrecovable damage. Thats my experience from what I have seen with friends and family. 

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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/16 13:40:12 (permalink)
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I'm no shrink but perhaps there is some deep rooted source of all this anxiety in the workplace? Perhaps there was something that happened, or even just an accumulation of negative experiences that has made you feel this way?
 
The very fact you do not feel like that all the time says to me it's not a chemical imbalance. We are all animals at the end of the day and it probably boils down to a fight/flight response to a perceived threat, even if you don't consciously realise what that threat is.
 
I would look at finding a good shrink before trying any meds. As said they aren't going to fix the problem.
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/16 17:49:23 (permalink)
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Cheers for posting all. I forgot to mention I have tried beta blockers (propranolol), which done **** all for me. I did try Citalopram too for 2 months about 2 years back, which again, done **** all. Sertaline is the one I have been given this time, but reading peoples experiences on the net, I really do not want to touch it. 
 
I feel like I have tried everything other than harsh drugs or just plain quitting. I have tried training before work (weights and hard cardio), meditating, cold showers, relaxing baths, no fap! 
 
I went on a couples holiday a few years back, went feeling a bit anxious from work, within a few days I was back to my normal self, happiest I remember ever being. I got back from holiday, had 3/4 days off work and still felt amazing, then went back to work thinking I was cured, within an hour back to square one, so ****ing frustrating. People would kill for my job, it's not even ****ing hard. I just can't be in a room with so many people, pretending to be someone I am not, with mind numbing small talk. 
 
My body is so ****ed from stress, I literally have 0 libido, unless I have been drinking. 
post edited by W0mpa - 2018/05/16 19:07:45
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/16 22:10:55 (permalink)
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Uriel
 
 
Benzodiazepines are a good quick fix for anxiety but they make you very groggy, they are essentially tranquilizers. I would not take them during the day or you'll be falling asleep on the job.


If you stay very low dosage you should be ok , 2mg-5 of diazepam takes the edge off for a good 8-12 hours , 15mg will see me getting groggy and wanting to go to sleep but its not a good long term solution , but I would say the same with any meds. 
 
Really not a fan of antidepressants , I find them more of severe depressants and find myself feeling like a different person , its not as if a doctor can climb inside your body and feel the effects or physically see if they are working or not , they scare me sh1tless knowing how bad/suicidal they made me feel and the docs didn't seem to understand what I was telling them , my mind was that far gone that its not as if you can reason with yourself to say ill come off and get back to feeling like i was before , luckily I did but I could have quite easily done myself in .


I have to say they worked for me, sertraline specifically as I mentioned, I don't know what you were given and there seems to be a very broad range of meds prescribed for depression largely at the doctor's discretion. I was very depressed to the point of basically just dragging myself through work because I had to and the rest of the time just wanted to lie in bed and do nothing, it was like being in a permanent "**** it all" state and couldn't care less if I died in a car crash on the way to work the next day.
 
The drug made it a lot better. Eventually I fixed the cause of the problem by getting a whole new life and a fresh start basically and then stopped taking it, if I hadn't taken the drug I don't know if I'd been able to do it and sill be stuck there.
 
I was also given alprazolam but used it very scarcely. It knocks me out good, I still use it nowadays as a powerful sleep aid for that reason, one or two of those babies and I'm out cold for 10+ hours.
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/16 23:15:01 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Muscle 2018/05/16 23:26:02
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I understand what you are saying, but why do you need to conform. Small talk, if you don't want to then don't, e.t.c.
 
You need to change your mindset, not your job as this will just follow you around, the guy you are out of work, be that guy all the time, you don't like something, have an opinion, or don't, well just do what you want, and say what you want. When you walk around in your office, you don't need to be in your office, you can be anywhere, if someone talks to you about some crap like eastenders or some other sh*t, just tell them what you think, if you like something then be happy about it. If you don't then tell them, if you want, whatever, who cares. 
 
Seriously, you don't need medication, life is as good as you make it, and if you can make it good out of work then you are half way there. You say it's a good job so that's a plus, who gives a t*ss it's in an office, you must have some people there who you can get along with? 
 
What do you spend your dollar on? Day dream about your next holiday, or the next tv show you might watch, or walking the dog or whatever, only you can know what makes you happy.
 
It just sounds to me like people pi88 you off, and I can fully relate to that. I worked in an office briefly when I was younger and people used to talk about such utter drivel it would make my mind explode, but instead of letting it get to me, I just told them that it was either complete crap, or i'd join in and talk even more balls in order to wind them up, was hilarious. Don't be a sheep is what i'm saying, be yourself and make the situation to your liking, boss the place needs to be your way of thinking.
 
Next time you walk in to work, be yourself, don't fit in for the sake of others, don't conform, do it your way.
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/16 23:30:21 (permalink)
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Its really hard but that's the key thing with anxiety, stop caring about what other people think so much

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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/17 04:20:23 (permalink)
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Suffered anxiety and bouts of mild depression for years as I got older. Never dreamt of taking anti depressants at any stage. TRT sorted it right out for me. 
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/17 13:08:08 (permalink)
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You need a mental health referral from your GP or to go private if you can afford it.

Take the medication they prescribe and see how it affects you. Everyone reacts to different drugs and different doses. Don't get hung up on the scare stories from the Internet.

I'm working through anxiety issues caused by a new job and the medication combined with CBT has really helped.

How you described work really resonated with me.

I would really encourage you to get some CBT. It can really help you understand why you're feeling the way you are and how you can manage yourself better.

In the long term you could keep using the CBT tools and come off the meds.
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Re: Would you take meds for work? 2018/05/20 10:24:22 (permalink)
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Bit of background, for the last 4 years I have worked in IT support, specifically in open office environments with lots of people and it is making me ill, every time I am in the office I get incredible stressed, anxious and depressed. I have struggled with it for ages now, hoping it will pass but it hasn't. I have changed jobs about 6 times in the 4 years (all doing the same role), just different companies. I have tried staying at companies for a couple of years, hoping I will get "used" to the place and get better, but it never happens.
 
On paper, my current place is great, good salary, lots of leave, flexible hours and I get to work from home, but  even out of work, I am still affected and not my normal self. I still feel stressed and anxious during the weekends (but much less so). If I binge drink on a sat night with mates, it's like my body resets itself, I am back to normal, no anxiety, then I walk back into the office Monday and it all comes flooding back. I need a full week or so off work to really return to normal, then I go back feeling great, walking in the office and am back to square one. 
 
I have been to the doctors and he has recommended anti-depressants, but I am unsure on whether to take them. On one hand they could magically cure everything. On the other, the side effects I have read about sound horrendous, increased anxiety for the first few weeks being the main one. If I get any more anxious I won't be able to leave the house. Part of me thinks should I really be messing with pills, when I know the answer is quitting work and finding a job that does not stress me out so much (obviously it's not that easy with mortgage and bills)? The job itself is not that stressful, yes I could do without dealing with numpties on the phone, but it is more due to the environment, my mind and body does not agree with being with so many people at once, forced to interact, not having my own space. 
 
TLDR; working in an open office is making me ill, take pills or quit and find something more suitable?


Just some more thoughts on this.

If you don't have a good relationship with your GP then try another one. I found that my first one didn't come across as particularly sympathetic. That may have just been her communication style, but I didn't find that it helped me when I was already feeling down on myself despite having a legitimate problem.

Work with your GP to try different doses and drugs if needs be. It might be trial and error until you find something that works for you.

On top of getting some talking therapy with a councillor such as CBT it's also a good idea to speak to your employer. I found this challenging so I put what I was going to say in an email at the weekend and asked for a face to face the following week. It was easier to explain in writing and it was nice to get it off my chest.

I had an issue with my working environment too as I found it difficult having people sat behind me who were quite noisy. There was also a lot of noise coming from a busy high street below my window. My understanding is that struggling with this is common for people with anxiety.

I was able to move desks so that I had a wall behind me, and was sat further from the window. This didn't cure everything but it certainly helped.

Its also worth asking if you can work from home more often if you find that a less stressful environment.

Just remember you can improve but it might not happen over night, and not without some setbacks along the way. It can also take time to find a combination of therapy, dose, drug and lifestyle/changes that works for you.

People get better from this sort of thing all the time.
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