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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/07 20:38:59 (permalink)
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I think Peagreen... if he were still active on here, could trump most people's injuries poor guy.

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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/07 21:46:31 (permalink)
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I think Peagreen... if he were still active on here, could trump most people's injuries poor guy.

What were his injuries and how did he get them? Bad luck or foolhardiness?
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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/07 21:50:41 (permalink)
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I think Peagreen... if he were still active on here, could trump most people's injuries poor guy.


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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/07 21:52:17 (permalink)
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https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/As-many-of-you-will-know-Peagreen-from-here-m4743015.aspx
 
There's a lot more to it than the initial post and thread too, ongoing complications etc

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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/07 22:06:23 (permalink)
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https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/As-many-of-you-will-know-Peagreen-from-here-m4743015.aspx
 
There's a lot more to it than the initial post and thread too, ongoing complications etc

That's bad news, DV. Thanks for posting.
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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/07 22:17:33 (permalink)
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I'll throw my 2 pence in,
I was 19, a squaddie, living in Germany and had just bought my first car, it was a brand new sporty little thing (dealerships near barracks always used to give mental deals!).
My friend had the exact same car and we had a friendly competition on how long it took to get from our Barracks (Herford) to the comm centre in Bielefeld.
I was trying to over take on a blind bend, swerved back in to avoid an oncoming truck. Got knocked, spun out, flipped over the side, rolled down a hill and wrapped the car round a tree.
Smashed pretty much the entire right side of my body, tib/fib, ribs, ulna/radius, collar bone, fractured skull. There was some other internal stuff as well. I was taken in unconscious and there were some touch and go moments, so I'm told. I spent a few months in hospital, then about twice that in a rehab centre. Most of the breaks were clean so repaired well, but getting back to a level of military effectiveness took a while.
Basically, a year of my time was pretty much solidly on-the-sick.
I wasn't big into training before that so the down time didn't really get to me that much, in fact it was during my rehab that I became interested in training.

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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/07 22:54:04 (permalink)
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I've only just succumbed to my first training injury; I have arthritis in both knees, which I now blame completely on lifting too heavy and for too long (over 30 years(. I should have started taking it easier earlier than the age I am now. The only respite will be an operation.


This is simply not true and is not backed up by any research. And arthritis is not an injury it’s a condition. And no an operation is not your only respite.

They have done multiple studies, even on competitive weightlifters (these people spend a lot more time training and lifting a lot more weight than most on here) and they found that the subjects’ joints were as healthy, or healthier, than other people their age.

There is lots of research that shows weightlifting (and squatting in particular), is an effective treatment for osteoarthritis, both by reducing pain and improving function and this is backed up by pretty much all arthritis organisations in the UK and abroad

You get joint problems from lifting with improper form not from lifting properly

I agree with much of what you say, Animal, but not everybody is the same. People have different builds, different routines and some of this may also be hereditary. In my case, it's arthritis and I inherit that from my dad in many ways.
Poor form is not a question; I've been lifting for well over thirty years and, although it's mainly bodybuilding and not stronglifting (like yourself), I've always been careful to stick to the 'correct guidelines'.
 
Until I reached the age of 48-49, I was like yourself bud, believing that I could go on forever - lifting heavier and heavier. This is simply not the case. Our bones suffer in time from years of wear and tear and it's only in the past few years that I've become to realise that is the case. More recently, it's taken me a long long time to eventually succumb to the fact that I must start listening to my body and taking things easier. Before my bodybuilding, I was a very keen cyclist which will have also added to the toll.
 
Without being in any way condescending, Animal, you are still quite a few years behind me in your training life. It will be interesting to see if you begin to experience aches and pains which are not merely muscular, but involve the bones when you reach my age.
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You said you blamed it ‘completely’ on lifting which is the part that is not true unless form is wanting. That part is a fact. But now you say it’s hereditary as you got it from your dad. That is plausible.

You wonder if I experience any aches and pains? The last 18months of my journal I’ve dedicated to researching and experimenting different methods of rehab/prehab/training, seeing specialists to optimise my body. I was getting injured alot. I sublaxed my patella and MRI shows tracking issues and up to 80% cartilage degraded in my knee with pre arthritis, a burst bursa and aggravated fat pad! I will need a full knee replacement before I’m 50. But I’ve worked on it literally everyday. And I now have 99% zero pain. Next week I start squatting properly again. Building up slowly. Making sure my body is moving correctly. It want moving correctly before and that is why I got hurt. If you move a spoon of soil a day, eventually you get a mountain.

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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/08 03:55:11 (permalink)
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I've only just succumbed to my first training injury; I have arthritis in both knees, which I now blame completely on lifting too heavy and for too long (over 30 years(. I should have started taking it easier earlier than the age I am now. The only respite will be an operation.


This is simply not true and is not backed up by any research. And arthritis is not an injury it’s a condition. And no an operation is not your only respite.

They have done multiple studies, even on competitive weightlifters (these people spend a lot more time training and lifting a lot more weight than most on here) and they found that the subjects’ joints were as healthy, or healthier, than other people their age.

There is lots of research that shows weightlifting (and squatting in particular), is an effective treatment for osteoarthritis, both by reducing pain and improving function and this is backed up by pretty much all arthritis organisations in the UK and abroad

You get joint problems from lifting with improper form not from lifting properly

I agree with much of what you say, Animal, but not everybody is the same. People have different builds, different routines and some of this may also be hereditary. In my case, it's arthritis and I inherit that from my dad in many ways.
Poor form is not a question; I've been lifting for well over thirty years and, although it's mainly bodybuilding and not stronglifting (like yourself), I've always been careful to stick to the 'correct guidelines'.
 
Until I reached the age of 48-49, I was like yourself bud, believing that I could go on forever - lifting heavier and heavier. This is simply not the case. Our bones suffer in time from years of wear and tear and it's only in the past few years that I've become to realise that is the case. More recently, it's taken me a long long time to eventually succumb to the fact that I must start listening to my body and taking things easier. Before my bodybuilding, I was a very keen cyclist which will have also added to the toll.
 
Without being in any way condescending, Animal, you are still quite a few years behind me in your training life. It will be interesting to see if you begin to experience aches and pains which are not merely muscular, but involve the bones when you reach my age.
Regards. 


You said you blamed it ‘completely’ on lifting which is the part that is not true unless form is wanting. That part is a fact. But now you say it’s hereditary as you got it from your dad. That is plausible.

You wonder if I experience any aches and pains? The last 18months of my journal I’ve dedicated to researching and experimenting different methods of rehab/prehab/training, seeing specialists to optimise my body. I was getting injured alot. I sublaxed my patella and MRI shows tracking issues and up to 80% cartilage degraded in my knee with pre arthritis, a burst bursa and aggravated fat pad! I will need a full knee replacement before I’m 50. But I’ve worked on it literally everyday. And I now have 99% zero pain. Next week I start squatting properly again. Building up slowly. Making sure my body is moving correctly. It want moving correctly before and that is why I got hurt. If you move a spoon of soil a day, eventually you get a mountain.

That's good progress, Animal. Credit to you for your perseverance, we do what we can against seemingly overpowering odds and that positivity and determination can often bring us through.
As I say though bud, we're all different and we all get older and however we feel that we can combat our injuries, our defences can always throw a wobbler out of the blue and throw a curve at you and it's hard to take.
I never thought that a couple of years ago that I would even be writing posts like these. It's a hell of a fvcking knockback after training hard for 30+ years and all I can do is see what happens with any further diagnosis. I tell ya, if my knees get through this, I'll be back at it guns a-blazin', though with caution present in my mind.
post edited by Floydy. - 2017/12/08 03:56:16
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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/08 04:02:23 (permalink)
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The ageing process can merciless. It takes no prisoners. Life is short. Death and debilitating illness are waiting around the corner. Live immediately IMO.
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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/08 04:06:13 (permalink)
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The ageing process can merciless. It takes no prisoners. Life is short. Death and debilitating illness are waiting around the corner. Live immediately IMO.

True mate. Though we must stay positive despite the knockbacks.
After all, even though we slow down in our training capabilities around 45+, we are still by no means "old".
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Re: Your Worst Injury 2017/12/08 09:20:18 (permalink)
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I think Peagreen... if he were still active on here, could trump most people's injuries poor guy.




I remember that, bloody horrible.

'Embrace the suck, and never give up'!
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