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2005/08/01 18:25:22 (permalink)
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Your views on personal phone calls at work?

As question really. Reason I ask is we have a guy at work who seems to be forever taking personal calls, as his supervisor I have been getting pretty pi$$ed of with this and wouldn't let him take one on friday and he got quite nasty about it....was I wrong to do this (it was nothing urgent BTW)?
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/01 18:26:46 (permalink)
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    Nope yr well in your right its all about give and take. if hes taking the mick just ban personal calls and can only been taken during luch or breaks
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/01 18:26:50 (permalink)
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    Think they're fine as long as they're not excessive, but if he's taking the piss then you need to sort it out. Has your company got a written policy about it?
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/01 18:27:10 (permalink)
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    nope you are compltelty in the right, tell him what his job is, and that you dont mind the odd personal call but dont be taking liberites. Remind him that its NOT your obligation to allow him any personal calls, and that if the proboblem persists will result in a written warning.
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/01 18:27:44 (permalink)
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    as long as its not incessant and doesnt interfere with work i dont think there should be a problem

    however, you say this guy is always taking these calls, as his supervisor do you think it affects his work, does he meet targets etc?
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/01 18:29:34 (permalink)
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    not at all your the superviser and should tell him no personal calls during work time! unless it is an emergency and if it is call his work home!

    Put up a sign, NO MOBILES in the office and if anyone ignores this then it will be a verbal warning and if they break the rule again, written warning and if they break it again txt him with his P45!!

    i hate personal calls on mobile during work times, lunch and break ok but when your hard at work the last thing i want to here is how so and so enjoyed ibiza or broke a nail etc!
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/01 18:30:35 (permalink)
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    i wouldnt be really worried about the calls, but if you aloow one member of stff to act like that......their will always be others following his lead, ive seen it happin..plus if you allow him to do that what else will it be before he starts doing other things........its not really about phone calls its about drawing a line of authority, if you dont uphold it, theyll walk all over you.
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/01 21:34:27 (permalink)
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    Cheers guys, very valid points and pretty much as i thought- just wanted to check I wasn't being a total ***t!

    Thanks again.
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/01 21:52:43 (permalink)
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    about 15 yrs ago, i worked in a bank with a mate.

    he kept getting calls from his bird, they were both loved up., just to talk cr ap.

    His boss got angry cos evry minute talking to her meant wages he was getting for free from the company.
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 09:13:07 (permalink)
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    Mrs BL, Know exactly what you mean and the attitude of some makes you feel like you're still in primary school LOL! Gave myself the night to calm down and spoke to the conmcerned party again this morning who didn't like it but that's tough ****!

    Thanks again for all the replies!
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 09:24:20 (permalink)
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    opinion about personal calls at work: make as many as you can! I personally try to make as many calls on companys phone as i need to. Same goes for surfing the web and so on.

    look, if the person is doing their job, as in delivering what has been agreed, then few calls here and there should not matter. After all, the company is making a good markup on this persons labour anyway, couple pennies on personal calls don't make any difference.

    Then there is a problem of those who are so tangled up with this protestant "let us all be slaves to our work" ethic that it pisses them off when their collegues might not share that blind commitment, but that is their problem.

    So the answer to the question if you were being unreasonable is: depends if that person was doing their job properly or not. The results should matter, not details IMO.
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 10:20:04 (permalink)
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    I make and take personal calls every day but if there is work to be done i will do that first.

    Don't think i would get through the day without making personal calls

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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 10:33:20 (permalink)
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    Andy- you're dead right. I hate personal phone calls, my staff really take the pi$$ with them and it annoys me cause they sit there whinging they have too much work to do but they seem to be able to spend half the day on the phone which I don't have time to do. My company even provides free phones in the restrooms but they still chat from their desls five mintutes before ther break.

    Don't stand for it!! One of mine even tried to raise a grievance against me once for cutting her off when she was on a personall call. I don't do that anymore, I wait until thay have finished then give them a documented verbal warning instead- it's harsher but they can't copmplain about that

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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 11:53:11 (permalink)
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    IMO personal calls should be allowed at work,BUT,staff should act responsibly when making or receiving them,I,ll tell you a little story which might help emphasize the point I,m trying to make:-
    Many moons ago I worked in an office for a big company(government),personal calls were banned because a certain individual decided to abuse the bosses good nature and take the p1ss making and taking calls numerous times throughout the day,one day my daughter was knocked off her bike by a car,because of this ban it took almost half an hour extra to contact me going through the red tape so I could take a personal call,it wasn,t serious as it turned out,but that,s not the point,personal calls ONLY when you have to !

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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 12:48:20 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: veganlifter

    opinion about personal calls at work: make as many as you can! I personally try to make as many calls on companys phone as i need to. Same goes for surfing the web and so on.

    look, if the person is doing their job, as in delivering what has been agreed, then few calls here and there should not matter. After all, the company is making a good markup on this persons labour anyway, couple pennies on personal calls don't make any difference.

    Then there is a problem of those who are so tangled up with this protestant "let us all be slaves to our work" ethic that it pisses them off when their collegues might not share that blind commitment, but that is their problem.

    So the answer to the question if you were being unreasonable is: depends if that person was doing their job properly or not. The results should matter, not details IMO.


    I totally disagree with this VL and am quite surprised at you for having this opinion.

    Making personal phone calls is actually 'stealing'. You are using what could be additional profit for the company for your own gain. Put it this way. If you were fortunate enough to have a cleaner at your house and you found out that he/she was making personal calls from your house, how would you feel? I for one would be annoyed. You have a contract with that person and pay them a set wage for their worth and time during those particular hours.

    I think you will find that the cost is more than a couple of pennies too especially when it happens often and ALL employees start to do it.

    I suggest that those who think it is ok actually put themselves in the business owners shoes and think how you would react then is someone was taking a little more from you each day.

    Perhaps if these little white crimes didn't happen so much then the companies could make more money therefore expand and perhaps employ more people

    If a person is doing their job then great, that's what they're there to do. I wouldn't object to them taking personal calls, but making them is different unless permission is asked.

    I would love to see the reaction on employees faces if the cost of the calls was deducted from their wages each week/month. They'd soon stop it then
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 18:06:38 (permalink)
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    well, i regard many company owners thieves as well, especially in the service sector with ridiculously low wages and bosses pulling in good profits.

    And take a look at the obscene profits many big companies are pulling in in UK while laying off staff or complaining to the unions how hard it is *sniff* and how they are only making a few million in bonuses.

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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 19:39:59 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: veganlifter

    well, i regard many company owners thieves as well, especially in the service sector with ridiculously low wages and bosses pulling in good profits.

    And take a look at the obscene profits many big companies are pulling in in UK while laying off staff or complaining to the unions how hard it is *sniff* and how they are only making a few million in bonuses.

    Vegan "Been There, Done That" Vegan


    I understand what you mean but that still doesn't give you the right to make personal phone calls and indirectly 'steal' more money from them.

    I have made calls myself so I'm no angel but now I work for myself I look at things differently.
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    RE: Your views on personal phone calls at work? 2005/08/02 22:01:06 (permalink)
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    haven't read all of the replies but in my opinion....

    well it depends on a couple of things?

    Is it affecting his work? is he being less productive, missing deadlines, quality issues?
    If so yeah, definitely tell him to stop, give him a warning if necessary.
    If it's not affectin the above (or indeed enhancing it (it could make him happy and therefore more motivated)) then you've got to ask question 2....

    Is it affecting others?
    Is it distracting, annoying, demotivating, a bad influence? If it's any of the above (significantly) then he's got to stop.

    You spoken to him, if it persists and it's cuase a problem with any of the points above, you can give him a written warning.


    I used to take personal calls occasionally and lots of personal emails (and MT), but frankly, it didn't bother others and my work was FANTASTIC, and frankly funny messages from friends got me motivated, happier etc.
    In fact I was more motivated when my boss took a more relaxed attitude. when I moved depts and got a boss who scrutinised her team, I got VERY VERY IRRITATED!


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