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2014/11/01 10:35:34 (permalink)

alcohol increases testosterone

What do you think of this? I thought it was the other way round. *Confused*
http://www.medscape.com/v...c=116729CT&spon=34
 
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/01 12:51:54 (permalink)
    Can't see anything mate when clicking on the link. It requests a password?


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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/01 13:45:24 (permalink)
    Alcohol does not increase testosterone.
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/01 14:24:29 (permalink)
    As far as i know alcohol does cause a slight rise in testosterone short term. Testosterone levels will be reduced the following day and take some time to recover.

    The amount testosterine is reduced is directly linked to the amount of alcohol consumed. I think you can have the equivalent of 2 pts without causing a reduction.

    From memory of a study i read once so could be slightly off
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/01 14:47:03 (permalink)
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    Alcohol does not increase testosterone.



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    In fact quite the opposite, Excess booze can cause primary hypogandism
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/01 15:27:40 (permalink)
    This is what it says...
     
    Alcohol intake is linked to lower sperm quality, according to a cross-sectional study of young Danish men published online October 2 in BMJ Open. Adverse effects on semen can be seen at levels as low as five drinks per week, although the trend is more pronounced among men who drink more than 25 units per week, the researchers report. However, at least one expert remains unconvinced of the association.
    Tina Kold Jensen, MD, from the Department of Environmental Medicine, University of Southern Denmark, and colleagues, enrolled 1221 Danish men being examined for military draft, aged 18 to 28 years, who filled out a questionnaire about alcohol consumption as part of their examination and who were willing to provide a semen sample. The participation rate was 30%.
    The men's average alcohol intake in the previous week was 11 units, where a unit is defined as 25 g of ethanol, the approximate amount in one beer or one glass of wine. Sixty-four percent of the participants reported binge drinking twice or more in the previous 30 days, and 45% said their recent intake was typical.
    For men who said their recent intake was typical, investigators found an inverse dose-response relationship with sperm concentration (P trend = .02), as well as with total sperm count (P trend = .01) and percentage morphologically normal sperm (P trend = .01). The trends were more pronounced among men who drank more than 25 units of alcohol in a typical week.
    Men who drank more than 40 units per week had an average sperm concentration of 33 million/mL compared with 50 million/mL for men drinking from one to five units a week. Percentage of abnormal sperm, based on the World Health Organization criteria, ranged from 7.8% normal among men drinking from zero to five units to 6.5% among men drinking more than 40 units a week.
    The association did not hold for participants who said their recent intake was not typical, which the researchers note was expected, as sperm take 72 days to mature. Hormone concentrations, however, can respond more rapidly, and in fact, recent alcohol intake and more frequent bingeing in the previous month were associated with higher concentrations of testosterone and lower concentrations of sex hormone-binding globulin.
    Participants who had consumed more than 30 units in the previous week were more likely to also be smokers, had a higher caffeine intake, and were more likely to report sexually transmitted infections. The investigators did not find an independent relationship between binge drinking and sperm quality, but noted that participants who binged also tended to have higher alcohol intake in general. The investigators write that "the negative association between alcohol intake and semen quality may be attributed to a direct adverse effect of alcohol on spermatogenesis or it may be a result of differences in lifestyle, health behaviour and diet found among high alcohol consumers, despite adjustment for these factors."
     
    "Interpreting the results from this study can be tricky," Jorge Chavarro, MD, ScD, from the Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, Massachusetts, told Medscape Medical News. Dr Chavarro was not involved in the work but regularly collaborates with the authors. He noted that although the downward trend in sperm concentration is statistically significant, the individual values at each level were not significantly different from the reference category of one to five units. "For me, the tiebreaker really comes down to putting these new findings in the context of the existing literature," he said, including a recent meta-analysis that showed no relation between alcohol intake and semen quality.
    He added, "My guess is that if these two recent papers were added to a new meta-analysis, the conclusion would be of no relation again. I think the most innovative contribution of this paper was the report on alcohol binging, which, to my knowledge, nobody had previously addressed."
    This work was supported by the Danish Council for Strategic Research, Program Commission on Health, Food and Welfare, Rigshospitalet, European Union, DEER, thee Danish Ministry of Health, the Danish Environmental Protection Agency, and the Kirsten and Freddy Johansens Foundation. The authors have disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/01 23:55:12 (permalink)
    You look at guys who drink a lot. They have moobs or man boobs. This is due to fat deposits and decreased testosterone.
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/02 00:24:39 (permalink)
    My Endo warned me about alcohol and it's negative effects on a males testosterone levels and the consequences. Moderation is the key. I have now quit the booze due to being educated on all the detrimental effects that alcohol has on our organs.


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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/02 09:51:02 (permalink)
    All of that post seems to be about sperm count rather than testosterone levels
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/02 09:53:21 (permalink)
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    You look at guys who drink a lot. They have moobs or man boobs. This is due to fat deposits and decreased testosterone.


    Moobs are not caused by decreased testosterone, its more conversion of testosterone to estrogen which is more likely due to excess test levels or higher bf levels
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/02 12:56:37 (permalink)
    Hormone concentrations, however, can respond more rapidly, and in fact, recent alcohol intake and more frequent bingeing in the previous month were associated with higher concentrations of testosterone and lower concentrations of sex hormone-binding globulin.
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/02 12:58:27 (permalink)
    It's a new study. Oct 14th 2014.
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/02 20:26:18 (permalink)
    You guys didn't read the article properly. That's why you have nothing to say. LMFAO.
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/02 20:41:58 (permalink)
    Link to the article didnt work, I've responded to your copy paste. I have said plenty?
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/03 16:48:13 (permalink)
    My sperm could definitly not bench as much after ten bottles of Stella
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    Re: alcohol increases testosterone 2014/11/04 14:34:20 (permalink)
    Although its interesting I suspect that any increase in test levels from drinking may well be associated with the age of the subjects of the study. Given that they were all enlisting in the military and are in the age 18-28 range they will be likely to have high test levels regardless of alchohol. As alchohol consumption often leads to aggression it is possible that there is a correlaton with test level increase around binge drinking. Unfortunatley regardless of the results there are far more long term damaging effects from alchohol consumption than can be outweighed by a small possible test increase. If you did a study using twins and gave one twin high alchohol levels for ten years whilst giving the other twin ten years of testosterone injections and no alchohol which would be in better shape at the end of the study?????? Know which I would opt for lol
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