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2005/07/20 14:07:50 (permalink)

all whey brands certified?

I asked as a lad at the gym which he uses - Maximuscle because 'it's proven' - I said he was wasting money on highly marketed whey (although good product)..

I use All-in-one which appears superb..top value, superb service, flavoured and mixes easily in a shaker..what else do you need?

His throughts were that these brands (like Reflex, WC etc) were not certified/proven to contain whey..

My response was that the relative low marketing spend (not appearing in Mens Health/flex etc) meant that we customers got better value and didn;t pay over the odds....

He wasn't persuaded..got me thinking though.. how do we know the whey has all the contents needed if no official (government/advertising bodies) tests were carried out

I am certainly not implying that Reflex et all do this!



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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 14:18:05 (permalink)
    REflex (and therofor all in one) is IS09001 tested for quality control, this is an independant test for quality. I don't think even maximuscle has this. Also in a recent independant lab test reflex scored tops for whey content ainst the american brands. In short your right, reflex= the shiz, maximuscle= stinking pile of shiz.
    post edited by wannaBlean - 2005/07/20 14:19:30
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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 14:25:30 (permalink)
    I have started using **** Whey and that seems good stuff. 48g of protein a go and no cheap crap or 'supposedly' cancer causing ingredients.
    seems pretty good so far, i fancied Cyclone but that stuff is too expensive for me and not sure if its just marketing and hype
    Anyone on Cyclone now?

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 14:27:56 (permalink)
    POTENTIALLY LIBELOUS COMMENTS - REFRAIN UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE YOUR STATEMENT
    post edited by James - 2005/07/20 23:21:06
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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 14:29:11 (permalink)
    48g of protein in 1 go....of course the amount of protein you get is proportional to the amount of whey you use.

    WC and MP both buy from large dairies that well known brands use. So its the same stuff without the flavourings at half the price

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 14:45:18 (permalink)
    I am sure most of us started out being wooed by the high profile marketing and hand holding promises of the likes of MM and LA and really believed they were the mutts nuts .. I am sure these guys exist and are soo profitable because of ignorance .. Luckily I grew up and wiser and now know the bascilly Whey is Whey is very few variations just by the cheapest one that meets you taste and nutritional profile goals .. I do like reflex even if they aren't the absolute cheapest because they are one of the very few supp companies in the world today who make their own stuff hence they are regulated by the UK food agency just like any other food manufacture has to be ..

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 14:48:59 (permalink)
    Also in a recent independant lab test reflex scored tops for whey content ainst the american brands. In short your right, reflex= the shiz, maximuscle= stinking pile of shiz.


    To be fair to Maximuscle (who are a good company, just very overpriced!) this "independent" test was carried out by Reflex and Maximuscle weren't included in the test.

    who make their own stuff hence they are regulated by the UK food agency just like any other food manufacture has to be ..


    Any supplement\food\drink which is processed\re-packaged\manufactured in the UK has to abide by the UK Food Laws & council checks - including us!
    post edited by myprotein.co.uk - 2005/07/20 14:55:45
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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 14:49:07 (permalink)
    remember its just a bi-product of the cheese making process. Do you ask your fruit or milk is certified, or infact anything else you eat ???

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 14:54:07 (permalink)
    good point !! If you are getting the results you want from your Whey then whats the issue ? I think Protein is one of the more stable supps .. I would be more concerned with some of the obvious Sh*t box products like Myostatin blockers .. common now PULEASE !!!

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 15:07:51 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: pulsar

    good point !! If you are getting the results you want from your Whey then whats the issue ? I think Protein is one of the more stable supps .. I would be more concerned with some of the obvious Sh*t box products like Myostatin blockers .. common now PULEASE !!!


    Good point mate, everyone has there own opinion but its what works best for you that counts. I have changed protein a fair few times and i cant say i notice that much difference between them thou.

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 15:17:49 (permalink)
    Yeah I have racheted down the price curve alot used most mainstream proteins and some non mainstream ... Currently on All The Whey and i have to say my gains are just as good now if not better than when i was using Maximuscle a couple years ago .. so cheapest is a good as any .. Whatever suits your taste and wallet

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 15:30:20 (permalink)
    I have tried MP but not Whey Consortium, i think i will give it a go next, at the prices i would be crazy not too. One thing i have spotted about the **** is the Glutamine included in it, where as most of the others tend not too....whether it makes any difference remains to be seen

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 15:36:06 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Gunit

    I have tried MP but not Whey Consortium, i think i will give it a go next, at the prices i would be crazy not too. One thing i have spotted about the **** is the Glutamine included in it, where as most of the others tend not too....whether it makes any difference remains to be seen


    All Whey has a certain amount of glutamine in it ... if it a cheaper one you want with alot then try USN loads cheaper than LA and more Glutamine too ... but as I said that really is more LA hype as Whey has glutamine anyway and LA's Quantites are not that high .. I think it is just std whey hyped to the Gunnels with words and of course their trade mark T and A ..

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 15:39:04 (permalink)
    cheers for the feedback..

    all-in-one was comparable price-wise (I bought 3 tubs of All in One) to WC I seem to recall.. I had 3 5kg of their unflavoured stuff before I switched to All-in-one.. no need for Nesquick any more!

    WC were great though and I certainly aint dissin' them!
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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 15:43:16 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: pulsar


    ORIGINAL: Gunit

    I have tried MP but not Whey Consortium, i think i will give it a go next, at the prices i would be crazy not too. One thing i have spotted about the **** is the Glutamine included in it, where as most of the others tend not too....whether it makes any difference remains to be seen


    All Whey has a certain amount of glutamine in it ... if it a cheaper one you want with alot then try USN loads cheaper than LA and more Glutamine too ... but as I said that really is more LA hype as Whey has glutamine anyway and LA's Quantites are not that high .. I think it is just std whey hyped to the Gunnels with words and of course their trade mark T and A ..




    thought there glutamine was higher than most actually....but i obviously was spending too much time gawping at the tits and ass

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 15:45:00 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Gunit

    I have tried MP but not Whey Consortium, i think i will give it a go next, at the prices i would be crazy not too. One thing i have spotted about the **** is the Glutamine included in it, where as most of the others tend not too....whether it makes any difference remains to be seen


    From my understanding it is pointless to have Glutamine added to Whey protein. The aminos will compete for absobption and very little of the Glutamine will be used.
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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 16:04:30 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: The Graduate


    ORIGINAL: Gunit

    I have tried MP but not Whey Consortium, i think i will give it a go next, at the prices i would be crazy not too. One thing i have spotted about the **** is the Glutamine included in it, where as most of the others tend not too....whether it makes any difference remains to be seen


    From my understanding it is pointless to have Glutamine added to Whey protein. The aminos will compete for absobption and very little of the Glutamine will be used.


    never heard that one mate, i will have a look into it i think! cheers

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 16:06:17 (permalink)
    and free form glutamine is pretty unstable in water. get one of the newer glutamine supps.
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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 16:45:37 (permalink)
    SALE OF GOODS ACT

    read up on it, if companies were selling ilegit stuff they'd be closed down faster than a brothel situated next to a police station.

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    RE: all whey brands certified? 2005/07/20 17:06:15 (permalink)
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