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2009/07/19 11:54:14 (permalink)
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i have been taking this and was wondering if anyone else has, i have lost just shy of a stone as your whole eating has to change otherwise the side effects arent the nicest.
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    Re:alli 2009/07/19 12:41:16 (permalink)
    lol nope. :) don't fancy excreting fat sometimes involuntarily lol
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    Re:alli 2009/07/19 15:45:50 (permalink)
    bulldog dave

    i have lost just shy of a stone as your whole eating has to change otherwise the side effects arent the nicest.

    Do you not think that you could have changed your diet and lost the stone without taking ali?
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    Re:alli 2009/07/19 16:05:15 (permalink)
    i read up on this.. and to be honest... im ganna buy some for my next cut, ill be about 13 stone. But i have a BIG problem with binging lol. I must do it 4 times a week.. good job i exercise a lot otherwise i wouldn't have my 6 pack :( lol But yeh... i can pretty much gurantee i won't eat ****, and the reason for this is.. ****... if you eat high amounts of fat (which is usually in junk food.. chocolate, crisps, sweets etc) this causes you to excrete involuntarily and leak oils from ur ass. I wanna give it a try anyway.. it sounds really funny.. you know what... i might give some to my mate and then buy him a kebab or something

    that'd be joke,...
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    Re:alli 2009/07/19 18:34:36 (permalink)
    I did the maths when my wife was on it.  It's a bit pointless if you have any self control I would say.

    The side effects are such that you won't want to eat any crap.  However if you want something to force you to stop eating high calorie fatty foods then it will do the job.

    My wife never lost anything on it cos our diets are fairly low fat anyway.  And she wa only just slightly over the BMI recommended for taking Alli.

    If you stick to their recommended fat limits, Alli will have negligable effect on your weight loss.  

    Say you eat 15g fat per meal 3 times a day = 45g fat per day.  Add on say another 10g of fat in snacks so that is about 55g of fat per day.

    If Alli gets rid of half that fat which is about 30g (being generous), you are then only cutting out 270 calories per day by using Alli.

    A pound of fat = 3500 calories so you would need to wait 12 days to lose a pound of fat by the actual effects of Alli.

    Of course, if it forces you to stop eating huge amounts of fat, then you might think it worthwhile.

    Anyone correct my maths if I am missing something.


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    Re:alli 2009/07/19 18:40:37 (permalink)
    A bizarre concept for losing weight. Blackmailing yourself into cutting fat intake with the threat of sh*tty side-effects.

    The only weirder idea I've heard is 'Diet Dust' which was popular in the States some years ago. You basically poured this powder over your dinner, thus rendering it inedible!
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    Re:alli 2009/07/19 18:47:55 (permalink)
    I think the main problem is that it is just another short term tool for people to use.  Unless they are really changing their eating habits, then as soon as they stop taking the tablets the weight will return.  If it is helping obese people lose weight thats a good thing, but they should be getting it on prescription.  The retail version at 50 quid a month or whatever is a complete rip off and not worth it when you realise how little effect it has.

    My brother in law doesn't take his tablet when he is going to have a fatty meal.  He is 23 stone.  Go figure.
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    Re:alli 2009/07/20 07:13:40 (permalink)
     my diet wasnt the worse when i started but i was surprised to the fat content of something s i thought were healthy for you, where as they werent doing me any favours at all. but nowi have totally changed my diet but at the weekend i had some weaknesses in the sense of keetle chips,crisps and maybe some other small things but thats now all changed.

    reference the pooing yourself it wont happen if you stick to the rules but some people just carry on what they eat and expect it to do miracles
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    Re:alli 2009/07/20 10:45:06 (permalink)
    bulldog dave

    i have been taking this and was wondering if anyone else has, i have lost just shy of a stone as your whole eating has to change otherwise the side effects arent the nicest.


    Sorry to be blunt, but you're wasting your money. Alli is the OTC name for the drug orlistat (generic name). It is available on prescription (as Xenical). The OTC version is half the potency of the PoM (60mg per cap as opposed to 120) and for the price of a month's supply of Alli (£84 IIRC) you can have a YEAR on prescription (if the charge is still £7.20).

    You must have money to burn mate, that's all I can say - you're flushing £921.60 down the crapper, mate! (actually it's probably more like £1843.20, as Alli is half-strength - NICE wouldn't approve the full-strength version for OTC sale.)

    Wish I had that kind of dough to throw away!

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    Re:alli 2009/07/20 11:59:06 (permalink)
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    bulldog dave

    i have been taking this and was wondering if anyone else has, i have lost just shy of a stone as your whole eating has to change otherwise the side effects arent the nicest.


    Sorry to be blunt, but you're wasting your money. Alli is the OTC name for the drug orlistat (generic name). It is available on prescription (as Xenical). The OTC version is half the potency of the PoM (60mg per cap as opposed to 120) and for the price of a month's supply of Alli (£84 IIRC) you can have a YEAR on prescription (if the charge is still £7.20).


    You must have money to burn mate, that's all I can say - you're flushing £921.60 down the crapper, mate! (actually it's probably more like £1843.20, as Alli is half-strength - NICE wouldn't approve the full-strength version for OTC sale.)

    Wish I had that kind of dough to throw away!



    yeh we've been on the internet aswell....
    where the hell do you get those figures.. its 41 quid for 120 capsules..
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    Re:alli 2009/07/20 12:11:53 (permalink)
    Although it is half strength, I think there is some evidence that it is almost as effective?  Not sure where I seen that but I am sure I read it. 

    I still believe it's main effectiveness is as a diet changer rather than any physiological effect anyway.

    If people are using this to kick start their weight loss it's not an entirely bad thing by the way, however hopefully by reading threads like this, people can educate themselves as to what the pills really are doing and learn how to do it without the pill.



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    Re:alli 2009/07/20 12:42:39 (permalink)
    thas why im ganna take them on my next cut, to stop me from having crappy foods when im trying to lose fat.
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    Re:alli 2009/07/20 20:10:01 (permalink)
    i probably wouldnt qualify at the doctors as im not a weeble but carry some extra weight, pills like these are for the more obese people.

    a months course is generally £49 but tesco and asda do promotions and knock a tenner off.

    i have bought some thermobal in the past which taste like crap and didnt nothing. these actually work and how many people out there buy weight loss pills specially designed for weight lifters.

    these are designed to change your eating plan and they have done for me and i suspect i will probably have 1 more months worth as i miss the odd treat like fish and chips
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    Re:alli 2009/07/20 20:32:21 (permalink)
    bulldog dave
    these are designed to change your eating plan and they have done for me and i suspect i will probably have 1 more months worth as i miss the odd treat like fish and chips

    I know what you mean mate my weakness is having a bowl of ice cream, with hob nobs crushed up, mars bars broken up, and chocolate thortons cake all together. (My mum and dad are fat, thus why we have that kind of food in the house, if it was up to me ----> fish all the way
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    Re:alli 2009/07/20 21:03:47 (permalink)
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    bulldog dave
    these are designed to change your eating plan and they have done for me and i suspect i will probably have 1 more months worth as i miss the odd treat like fish and chips

    I know what you mean mate my weakness is having a bowl of ice cream, with hob nobs crushed up, mars bars broken up, and chocolate thortons cake all together. (My mum and dad are fat, thus why we have that kind of food in the house, if it was up to me ----> fish all the way



     
    i miss kettle chips the most though
     
    how big are you then?
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    Re:alli 2009/07/21 11:14:13 (permalink)
    im not big at all... like 6 ft 1 10.10 stone... i love doing running so i don't find losing fat a problem, but i what i do is fairly counter productive.. I'd eat like bowl of ice cream then run 4 mile cuz i feel bad xD
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    Re:alli 2009/07/23 00:34:42 (permalink)
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    bulldog dave

    i have been taking this and was wondering if anyone else has, i have lost just shy of a stone as your whole eating has to change otherwise the side effects arent the nicest.


    Sorry to be blunt, but you're wasting your money. Alli is the OTC name for the drug orlistat (generic name). It is available on prescription (as Xenical). The OTC version is half the potency of the PoM (60mg per cap as opposed to 120) and for the price of a month's supply of Alli (£84 IIRC) you can have a YEAR on prescription (if the charge is still £7.20).


    You must have money to burn mate, that's all I can say - you're flushing £921.60 down the crapper, mate! (actually it's probably more like £1843.20, as Alli is half-strength - NICE wouldn't approve the full-strength version for OTC sale.)

    Wish I had that kind of dough to throw away!



    yeh we've been on the internet aswell....
    where the hell do you get those figures.. its 41 quid for 120 capsules..


    My local Boots.
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    Re:alli 2009/07/23 06:56:19 (permalink)
    Alli, is just short of £50 from Boots on line for 84 caps.


    It is available on prescription (as Xenical). The OTC version is half the potency of the PoM (60mg per cap as opposed to 120) and for the price of a month's supply of Alli (£84 IIRC) you can have a YEAR on prescription (if the charge is still £7.20).


    But it is only available for those of a certain BMI and over

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    Re:alli 2009/07/23 07:01:31 (permalink)
    In my limited experience, anything OTC isn't worth ya hard earned money
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    Re:alli 2009/07/23 12:05:44 (permalink)
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    In my limited experience, anything OTC isn't worth ya hard earned money


    Thats quite a general statement and not really true in most cases to be honest.  Sure getting something on prescription will work out cheaper normally, but getting medical approval is not always an option.
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