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2011/03/29 13:12:42 (permalink)
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anavar or stanozolol

i was meant to get hold of and start my anavar cycle today but my soures source is on holiday anyway i contacted  source number2 who is telling me anavar is not really worth it terms of gains/cost and wont do much at all. i asked whats a smillar product to anavar (get ripped, vascularity etc) he suggest stanozolol (winni tabs).
 
so i just wanted to know of some personal experiences that you guys may of had with stanozolol and whether u also think they are a better alternative to anavar? as from so far what ive read about them is that they are cheaper and more effective so they must be a better alrenative right? or is it the sides involed with them which lower their rep compared to var
 
 and  for anyone who has done cycles of winny tabs what kind of doses/sides/results did u acheive ?
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 13:26:01 (permalink)
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    depends what your goals are for the cycle mate? You haven't told us what you're after from the compound so we can't you advise you on the best option....

    Diet and cardio are the only thing you need to get ripped, either anavr or winny are a good addition to any cut, you'll probably save a few quid if you go for winny but if you spend the extra for var you can run whatever dose you like without any real risk of side effects.

    Either is decent for cutting tbh.
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 13:26:21 (permalink)
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    i think var is a lot better then winny people who i know have used it have had better gains they winny and without the dry joints what is your cycle looking like you menteioned you want to get ripped and vascular ect i found the best thing to get vascular was tren and as for getting ripped diet is key postwhat your course is going to look like and diet and i am sure you will get some good responses
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 13:28:03 (permalink)
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    EQ pisses on tren for vascularity... infact EQ pisses on everything for vascularity... everything i've used anyway.

    Depends on cycle history though as well, we could do with knowing that.
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 13:38:06 (permalink)
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    sorry boyz, nah it will be my first cycle and i was going to go far anavar 80mg a day for 8 weeks. in terms of goals im looking to get cut up even more im weighing 180 pounds im 5ft 9 body fat appartently 19% (tesco weight machine) my bench is 120kg 7 reps, 130 kg 2 reps.  ive got spider webs already forming on my chest but looking to lose more abdominal fat.
     
    wouldnt stanzolol and anavar be the same in terms of goals? i dont see the real difference between them except stanozolol being stronger
     
    and not really sure about the doseges of stanozolol to take was thinking just 50mg(oral) for 6 weeks?
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 13:44:39 (permalink)
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    I'd probably go for var if money is no option, if you need to save a few quid then go for winny.

    At your height/weight ratio though i'd be looking at bulking rather than cutting personally.
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 13:50:36 (permalink)
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    alrite mate chers well im waiting for source to get back 2 me with prices so ill see if there a significant price increase for the var i may well have to go for the winny. but what kind of sides am i looking at with winny compared to var? is hairloss really that common with winny or just more myth?
     
    i like to stay lean and cut personaly mate keeps me feeling more agile when fighting
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 13:51:49 (permalink)
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    agree with you with the euipoise only problem is the hunger i tryed to cut up on equipoise and had to change to a lean bulk if he can handle hunger go for equipoise
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 14:12:44 (permalink)
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    @ Bav212. Hi mate, pleased to read you heeded my advice and decided to up the Var to 80mgs e/d. The advice above from Doink, re diet and cardio being key, is bang on. If you're wanting to get "ripped" neither Var nor oral Winny will provide a quick-fix. You must nail your diet and get a good cardio regime going to see the benefit either med can provide. Think of the AAS you decide to cycle as a supplement, something  you use to supplement your diet and cardio regime in getting a ripped body. Running either Winny or Var to get "ripped" without a clean diet and good cardio will be utterly pointless and a waste of money! OK, so that being said, based on your previous posts, I think Winny might be a good choice for you. Var is probably most suited to your goals TBH, but Winny is probably in second place in terms of suitability. It might be worth waiting until you can get the Var, but if you do decide to go for Winny cycle it @ 50mgs e/d for 6 wks. I've had good results from that cycle. Good hardening gains and vascularity. Be prepared for quite bad shinbone aches and/or joint aches by week two to three. I found the shinbone aches proved problematic re getting "ripped" because they prevented me from running long distances, so I had to decrease my cardio. Same story on the two occasions I've cycled Winny-only. Bear in mind neither Winny nor Var will do anything unless cycled in conjunction with a clean diet and cardio!
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 14:25:33 (permalink)
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    yer ofcourse mate i should of made it clear after doinks post that my diet and training(incl cardio) is bang on. just time for that ass to help supplement it to the next level.  shinebone aches dont sound to good did they go away after pct? and how were the gains after pct were they moderatly kept?
     
    just one more quick questions as u said u have cycled winny twice and i believe you have cycled anvar once or twice too in which cycles did u see better results with? o yer and any hairloss issues?
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 14:30:36 (permalink)
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    hairloss is a personal thing mate, you'll have to suck it and see.

    You wont go bald off one cycle if that's what you're asking and if you aren't prone to male pattern baldness then it wont affect you full stop.
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 14:38:08 (permalink)
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    bav212

    yer ofcourse mate i should of made it clear after doinks post that my diet and training(incl cardio) is bang on. just time for that ass to help supplement it to the next level.  shinebone aches dont sound to good did they go away after pct? and how were the gains after pct were they moderatly kept?

    just one more quick questions as u said u have cycled winny twice and i believe you have cycled anvar once or twice too in which cycles did u see better results with? o yer and any hairloss issues?

    Yes, mate, that's correct; I have cycled both meds independently. I think shinbone and/or joint aches are normal on Winny cycles. Certainly I suffered shinbone aches on both Winny-only cycles I've ran. And the Winny was from 2 different UGLs, so the shinbone aches can't be attributed to a specific UGL. In terms of keeping gains, I found that of all the oral AAS cycles I've ran, gains from Winny were the easiest to keep. I know the consensus is that Var gains are the easiest to keep,  but, IME, Winny gains are as easy, if not easier, to keep. No hair-loss issues for me with Winny. Only Winny-related issue for me was the shinbone aches. I use a treadmill about 5 mornings a week normally. I found that by the second/third wk of both Winny cycles I was beginning to find it hard to run for more than a few minutes without feeling a burning-type sensation around my shinbones. In both cases I just ran through the pain and discomfort, so it was never so bad that I had to actually stop my daily running, but certainly I had to reduce the pace a bit and decrease the amount of time spend running because of the aches.
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 14:41:20 (permalink)
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    kool mate good info there, i think winny is the winner
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 18:22:41 (permalink)
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    i felt like **** on winnie bud, drowsy, no energy, never in the mood for anything, very depressed, i had to come off just after 2 weeks becuz of the way i felt, the muscle were starting to look good but had an impact on my life so decided to scarp it, i have researched the drug and it seems the sides were common but not every1 get them, gutted really how i felt.
    sorry to jump the thread but thought i would give u my personal view on winnine

    Squat: 175kg

    Bench: 140kg x2

    Deadlift: 230kg

    @ (currently 79kg)
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    Re:anavar or stanozolol 2011/03/29 18:55:12 (permalink)
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    hmm intresting hope i dont see this might just buy a 100 tabs first then,
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