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2015/01/25 15:12:35 (permalink)
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anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss?

the theory being that it will block 5-alpha-reductase, an enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT. DHT is the molecule responsible for hair loss, and also is involved in the enlargement of the prostate.
 
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 16:01:16 (permalink)
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Nothing reduces hair loss in the same way as nothing cures a cold. Another expensive gimmick.
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 16:44:39 (permalink)
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Don't waste your time on herbal placebos. Buy finasteride if that's your thing. But remember DHT causes your hair to fall out, but also gives you strength, energy and libido. Get rid of DHT and you'll have a nice head full of hair, but probably a limp weiner.
 
I say embrace the baldness.
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 17:10:17 (permalink)
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It can be bought fairly cheap from Holland and Barratt amongst other places I've no doubt.Tried it for just over 12 months and there was no noticeable difference as far as any new hair growth.As you have observed/researched it blocks DHT(dihydratestosterone) which deactivates non-androgenic hair follicles(ie hair on your scalp).However if the hair follicle is already dormant there is no clinical evidence of ANYBODY growing new hair only maintaing the healthy hair that already exists.So for it to work you need to start taking it prior to going bald.
 
Some users experience adverse side effects more than others .Generally speaking expect a decrease in sex drive(that doesn't mean impotence in vast majority of users just a decrease),slight increase in body fat and slight decrease in overall muscle mass.
 
THERE IS NO MIRICLE CURE FOR BALDNESS there will always be plenty of con artists out there however that will tell you everything you want to hear to get your money.Curing baldness should be taken MUCH more seriously going bald especially for a young guy is like a death sentence,despite all this BS you read women find bald men sexy NOBODY has ever looked better without hair than they did with it.Which means inevitably you will only tend to get women of a lesser standard than you did prior to going bald,that's speaking from personal experience and other guys that I know.
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 17:24:33 (permalink)
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What if you have hair like Beckham but a really ugly face?
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 17:55:03 (permalink)
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floydy, if you don't have anything constructive to say mate please just f-ck off - there are plenty actual medical cures for hair loss  - minoxidil for example does actually work but costs a fortune and in tablet form results in hair growth generally making you look like a wookie, i know this as it's a heart med and it did indeed result in a full head of hair but also hair loads of other places i didn't want it. 
 
i shave my head and have done for years, even before going bald and frankly don't suit hair but loads of people take this for prostrate health and when googling it i found a link to hairloss so i thought i'd ask you lot as at the end of the day you're more likely have experienced this side effect and tell me about it - without having some motive for saying it does or does not work. there's no point googling it to see if it works as there are so many scams out there that you can't trust what you read. 
 
i'm seriously not interested in taking a supp that increased body fat and decreases muscle mass tho - hells no! lol, does it do that to a noticable amount? if so why do loads of folk on here take it for their prostate? 
 
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:22:58 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby voodoo ninja 2015/01/25 18:32:57
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Tried minoxidil as well BTW that also is a "misleading" product.You tends to just get a coating of fluff similar to that on the skin of a peach on top of your head.
 
Way I look at it is if there was some GENUINE cure out there then people like Wayne Rooney and John Travolta who have £/$Millions wouldn't messing about with hair transplants.
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:26:18 (permalink)
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Curing baldness should be taken MUCH more seriously going bald especially for a young guy is like a death sentence,despite all this BS you read women find bald men sexy NOBODY has ever looked better without hair than they did with it.Which means inevitably you will only tend to get women of a lesser standard than you did prior to going bald,that's speaking from personal experience and other guys that I know.

Wow over react much?
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:37:39 (permalink)
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Tried minoxidil as well BTW that also is a "misleading" product.You tends to just get a coating of fluff similar to that on the skin of a peach on top of your head.
 
Way I look at it is if there was some GENUINE cure out there then people like Wayne Rooney and John Travolta who have £/$Millions wouldn't messing about with hair transplants.




i have to say you do make a good point man. the hair on my head was fairly course tho but it was also on my forehead and fecking everywhere else. the thing is taht when i stopped taking it all the hair was gone and back to normal within say 6 months so you'd really need to take it for the rest of your life if you want to keep the hair!
 
i genuinely look stupid with hair tho but at 42 i'm now thinking i should be doing something for my prostate health as the guy over the road has prostrate problems and he's not even 20 years older than me! what i don't want is MORE fat or less muscle in the process tho. not too fussed about hair as i'll just continue to shave anyway but figured there are loads of folk on here who avoid certain meds due to the issue of hair loss so maybe this would help them. 
 
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Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:37:50 (permalink)
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floydy, if you don't have anything constructive to say mate please just f-ck off - there are plenty actual medical cures for hair loss  - minoxidil for example does actually work but costs a fortune and in tablet form results in hair growth generally making you look like a wookie, i know this as it's a heart med and it did indeed result in a full head of hair but also hair loads of other places i didn't want it. 
 
i shave my head and have done for years, even before going bald and frankly don't suit hair but loads of people take this for prostrate health and when googling it i found a link to hairloss so i thought i'd ask you lot as at the end of the day you're more likely have experienced this side effect and tell me about it - without having some motive for saying it does or does not work. there's no point googling it to see if it works as there are so many scams out there that you can't trust what you read. 
 
i'm seriously not interested in taking a supp that increased body fat and decreases muscle mass tho - hells no! lol, does it do that to a noticable amount? if so why do loads of folk on here take it for their prostate? 
 
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No need for that attitude mate. I have many constructive things to say actually. All I said was that nobody has a cure for baldness, as agreed by other members. You're wrong to advise me to f-off.
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Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:44:43 (permalink)
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It's roid raging off.

If you love something let it go,if it comes back to you it's yours,if it doesn't it never was.
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Re: Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:47:11 (permalink)
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It's roid raging off.

Seems like it doesn't it mate. Perhaps a lack of a sense of humour is the reason...
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Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:51:28 (permalink)
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floydy - you're right, your comment about beckhams hair was very useful, try and remember tho that this is muscle talk not facebook. i asked a question and from your many useful answers i can't figure out if you have even used saw palmetto? did it affect your hair at all or is Mr Beckham you're only point of reference? what doses of saw palmetto does your mate dave take?
 
if you don't have anything constructive to say please go and spam up someone elses thread or bugger off to general or even facebook where idle chit chat is expected
 
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Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:54:17 (permalink)
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Tried minoxidil as well BTW that also is a "misleading" product.You tends to just get a coating of fluff similar to that on the skin of a peach on top of your head.
 
Way I look at it is if there was some GENUINE cure out there then people like Wayne Rooney and John Travolta who have £/$Millions wouldn't messing about with hair transplants.




i have to say you do make a good point man. the hair on my head was fairly course tho but it was also on my forehead and fecking everywhere else. the thing is taht when i stopped taking it all the hair was gone and back to normal within say 6 months so you'd really need to take it for the rest of your life if you want to keep the hair!
 
i genuinely look stupid with hair tho but at 42 i'm now thinking i should be doing something for my prostate health as the guy over the road has prostrate problems and he's not even 20 years older than me! what i don't want is MORE fat or less muscle in the process tho. not too fussed about hair as i'll just continue to shave anyway but figured there are loads of folk on here who avoid certain meds due to the issue of hair loss so maybe this would help them. 
 
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I assume you're on anabolics? If you are then you won't really be affected in terms of body composition. The fat gain and strength loss (muscle not so much) apply to natural guys because without DHT they lose their strongest androgen and have a severe drop in overall androgenic activity.
 
If you're worried about your prostate all you have to do is switch to steroids with a higher androgenic to anabolic ratio. Prostate hyperplasia is precisely one of the markers used to quantify androgenic effect, steroids with a low androgenic score should have a minimal impact on your prostate. When in doubt deca is always a safe bet. And it goes without saying, stay away from stuff like tren.
 
 
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Re: Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 18:59:17 (permalink)
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floydy - you're right, your comment about beckhams hair was very useful, try and remember tho that this is muscle talk not facebook. i asked a question and from your many useful answers i can't figure out if you have even used saw palmetto? did it affect your hair at all or is Mr Beckham you're only point of reference? what doses of saw palmetto does your mate dave take?
 
if you don't have anything constructive to say please go and spam up someone elses thread or bugger off to general or even facebook where idle chit chat is expected
 
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Jesus man! Lighten up fella.
A little lighthearted humour within a thread is allowed you know, lol!
People will tend to disagree with you during life mate, it's a natural part of progression and you must also note that this is only my opinion. Don't worry about it buddy!
Oh, and I detest Facebook.

I shall leave you to your thread. Very sorry to interrupt.
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Re: Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 19:11:21 (permalink)
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ah balls - i really like tren!
 
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Re: Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 19:16:16 (permalink)
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Tren is as powerful an androgen as DHT itself and doesn't need to react with 5a-reductase to do it (ie 5aR inhibitors won't do anything to stop it). Definitely off the table if prostate issues are a concern.
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Re: Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 22:22:50 (permalink)
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i've just had two people i know in the last month need prostate surgery so it's on my mind. couldn't care less about the hair thing tbh, just though it was interesting if it were true but i look genuinely stupid with hair and regardless of that BMH says about guy's with hair - i look much better without. for me a bad hair day is when i cut my scalp shaving and forget to take the plaster off!
 
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Re: Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/25 22:39:28 (permalink)
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Sounds like you're just a little paranoid because it happened to someone close to you, but that doesn't really mean you're gonna have problems. I don't even know anyone personally who has prostate problems. Like with hair loss and other issues associated with androgens, it's usually more a matter of genetic predisposition to it and if you have it it's gonna happen eventually (steroids will just make it happen faster), if you don't the steroids are unlikely to cause it.
 
You could just get a prostate exam (fortunately nowadays you don't need the doc to shove a finger up your ass any more) instead of worrying about "what if"s.
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Re: Re: Re: anyone used saw palmetto to reverse hair loss? 2015/01/26 09:33:02 (permalink)
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cheers uriel
 
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