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2007/06/17 15:49:26 (permalink)
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basic Mac book vs basic Vaio.....

Its a toss up between:

white Mac book 2ghz duo, 1gb ram, 80gb hard drive...750 quid

or

Sony c2s core 2 duo 1.66ghz, 1gb ram, 120gb hard drive.. 600 quid

The mac has a better processor, but I wouldnt notice the difference really.
Its has a smaller hard drive, and costs 150 quid more.

It also has an unfamiliar os (to me) which means I would probably need to install xp, and its bigger (i want a small laptop).

On paper it seems a no brainer, but theres somthing mysterious about the whole 'apple mac thing' which makes me wonder if im missing out.

Am I missing something? anyone own one (either)?????

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    Dr Z
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 16:12:27 (permalink)
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    I am using a Macbook , can't fault it ! ,well , actually I can - it gets a bit warmer than your average laptop , but that isn't a huge problem TBH
    You can download the Boot Camp software from Apples site (it is a beta version , but it is 100% stable - the idea is it will always be beta , the release version is going to be built into the new OS in October ) and run XP / Vista natively if you so wish
    But I would recommend using OS X , it is a far better OS than XP (imo)

    I'd definately go for the Macbook if I were you

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    theiopener
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 16:45:20 (permalink)
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    there are reasons to go for a mac and reasons not to, i use one but ill give arguments for both sides

    Mac: Pros - better hardware, better software support as they make their own hardware and software so it just works, no crashing as OSX is based on Unix, macbooks are made out of tough lucite which i believe it bulletproof, they look better, everything will work out of the box with a mac, they have built in software especially for people who want to manage their digital life aka iLife, better out of box experience, it can run windows nativeky via bootcamp or parallels, tech support far superior to Sony IME, no viruses for OSX or spyware or trojan horses

    Cons: more expensive than a sony vaio option, you will have to buy XP or vista in addition to your Macbook so additional cost, can be expensive to repair if out of warranty


    Vaio: Pros: cheaper than the macbook, runs windows natively, sony has a good track record of building quality stuff so hardware life expectancy is good, always has the added value of being a VAIO when you come to sell it on (think of it as a the mercedes effect), most vaio's have better graphics than the standard macbook model, cheaper to repair if something goes wrong and its out of warranty

    Cons: runs windows which IME is less secure and stable that OSX, does not come with any digital life software, battery life on most sonys i find is substandard, comes preloaded with junk you dont need usually, viruses! spyware and more oh my!, plastics are not as hard wearing as the macbook, no built in camera, possible driver issues and long winded recovery process


    End of the day its what works for you, if you dont need a macbook or the ability ro run OSX etc then go for the Vaio, dont be tempted by marketing hype if you can save youself some dosh and still get a machine that does what you want to do with it than great. Oh btw www.apple.com/ukstore theres a refurb section there with heavily discounted prices on macbooks
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 16:51:36 (permalink)
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    If I had a choice (money no object), I would go with the Mac Book, simply because Mac OSX is a dream to work with. Apple make computers that simply 'work'. The Operating System is built for the hardware it runs on, therefore the whole package works flawlessley (98% of the time). Windows is designed to operate with many different hardware manufacturers so therefore it will always be a little 'buggy' and can sometime be a pain in the arse.

    Software isn't much of a problem nowerdays for the Apple Macs as there are so many for it (including Microsoft Office!) and if you really want to then they will run Windows providing you get your own copy of it.
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 16:59:53 (permalink)
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    When me and my mates started uni five years ago we all got laptops about the same time, I got a mac and the rest of my mates got PCs - mine is still going strong now and works like new whereas all of theirs struggle to cope now. Worth getting a mac imo.

    All I need is a big gun and a coupe that's crazy quick...
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 17:03:13 (permalink)
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    Teh, this thread has sent me dreaming. Look at the new Mac Book Pro's -> http://www.apple.com/uk/macbookpro/

    @£1299, it's pricey but not too bad. 15" screen and 2.2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo. Built in Wireless, Bluetooth, Camera (iSight) + 2GB RAM! I would go for the 2.4Ghz one though as I do a lot of grapgics work and the 256MB Graffics would come in handy, not sure I could scrape together the extra £300 though

    They do last forever though so a good investment.
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 18:13:38 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: shed

    Teh, this thread has sent me dreaming. Look at the new Mac Book Pro's -> http://www.apple.com/uk/macbookpro/

    @£1299, it's pricey but not too bad. 15" screen and 2.2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo. Built in Wireless, Bluetooth, Camera (iSight) + 2GB RAM! I would go for the 2.4Ghz one though as I do a lot of grapgics work and the 256MB Graffics would come in handy, not sure I could scrape together the extra £300 though

    They do last forever though so a good investment.



    About to make a purchase myself mate well, maybe in a couple of months .....

    Apparantly , an important feature of these new Macbook Pro's is the LED backlit screens - I am not a techy person .. and have no real idea of the significance of this, but my mates are all getting excited about it ! ... I think the give better battery life and the screen runs cooler or something like that ( Cu3ed ? )
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 20:36:21 (permalink)
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    actually dr Z its all about better battery life, sharper picture, more uniform lighting which in turn means better colour, so best for graphics pros and photo editors and people who have a need for spot on colour calibaration. Besides the apple refurb store is your friend here
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 22:18:53 (permalink)
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    Not really in fact i dont REALLY see the need for LED baklit panels in laptops TBH,(theres no makred improvment for brighness of anything) better more obvious ways to save battery life, it LED BL will only REALLY make a difference for contrast ratio in LCD Tvs as this will be the new standard for the backlighting for them. Should be coming out the end of this year with new models.

    I would go with the Mac personally, but as much as that may stunn Dr Z lol, unless you are willing, like i was, to completely remove all the ****E that Sony insist filling a brand new Vaio up with that take up about 1/3 of your resources just to boot up, the mac is a better deal.

    Saying that Intel are bring newer much faster CPU's out for lappys as well as quadcrore ones, so if ya can wait a few months I would.

    The improvment for laptops will be as significant as was Conroe Duo was for Pcs.

    Bear in mind what software you want for it, Apple doesn't have as much off the shlef easy to get programmes as say a MS based system does, and what does run on an Apple tends to cost more. But should run it more stable for day to day use....just not Quark 7 though............or CS3 lol


    ORIGINAL: Dr Zoidberg


    ORIGINAL: shed

    Teh, this thread has sent me dreaming. Look at the new Mac Book Pro's -> http://www.apple.com/uk/macbookpro/

    @£1299, it's pricey but not too bad. 15" screen and 2.2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo. Built in Wireless, Bluetooth, Camera (iSight) + 2GB RAM! I would go for the 2.4Ghz one though as I do a lot of grapgics work and the 256MB Graffics would come in handy, not sure I could scrape together the extra £300 though

    They do last forever though so a good investment.



    About to make a purchase myself mate well, maybe in a couple of months .....

    Apparantly , an important feature of these new Macbook Pro's is the LED backlit screens - I am not a techy person .. and have no real idea of the significance of this, but my mates are all getting excited about it ! ... I think the give better battery life and the screen runs cooler or something like that ( Cu3ed ? )

    post edited by cu3ed - 2007/06/17 22:21:35
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    theiopener
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 22:20:19 (permalink)
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    Ahem i use CS3 mate and im on a mac . Bloody pain in the backside that most of my plugins no longer work though
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 22:22:27 (permalink)
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    LMAO, thats my current hell in work, still mostly using CS2 till they sort that crap out.....im lost without my Coral plugins lol.
    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    Ahem i use CS3 mate and im on a mac . Bloody pain in the backside that most of my plugins no longer work though

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    theiopener
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 22:25:26 (permalink)
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    oh man i miss KPT big time, i think its a bloody cheek that Alien Skin are charging for updates as well for UB versions
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 22:28:01 (permalink)
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    are they? my eyes Candy ones (nature and textures and stuff) seem ok, KPT are not being reconised and I only have a few AW ones that i havent tried.

    They even had a siple import option in the CS3 that made things worse

    Shame im really loving the improvment made in CS3.
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    RE: basic Mac book vs basic Vaio..... 2007/06/17 22:37:51 (permalink)
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    my scanner doesnt work with it either, or was either use CS2 or buy Vuescan, so i bought vuescan instead. `I have the Alienskin suite before it was updated for CS3 so im well annoyed they wont give me a free update as i bought the suite 4 weeks prior to the updates coming out
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