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2006/07/07 20:40:32 (permalink)

bench strength gone down?

Hi all,

I stopped doing flat barbell bench a while ago and basically just did dumbells, now my dumbell bench FLEW up which was great, but I was expecting that as my pecs, shoulders and tris grew bigger and stronger, I'd go back to barbell bench and it's be better, but it actually seems to have gone down a lot.

Why is this?

Also, what's the best way of increasing bench press weight.
4 rep sets to failure? or 1 rep max sets? or just keep doing the 6-8 reps and GRADUALLY build up slowly?
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    RE: bench strength gone down? 2006/07/07 20:52:53 (permalink)
    I think its just down to mechanics mak - the barbell bench is slightly different so not training it for a while may send it down a little even though your dumbell strength is up - it is odd though as id expect your overall strength to increase , worrying for me coz ive been using dumbells and i have a powerlifting comp in sept BACK TO THE BARBELL !!!

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    RE: bench strength gone down? 2006/07/07 21:16:22 (permalink)
    Hey dude. I've mailed ya'

    Yeha it's weird, I used to bench 110kgs now down to 85kgs. I went on a cut a whhile back and lost some strength and never properly went back to the bar for benchpress. I'll keep you posted. maybe it was just a bad day for me. We'll see.

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    RE: bench strength gone down? 2006/07/08 14:31:40 (permalink)
    its simple really, you only get good at what you pratice, imo you should get back to your top bench weight a lot quicker as you have still been doing a flat press of some kind
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    RE: bench strength gone down? 2006/07/08 19:06:13 (permalink)
    when i lose even 1kg my weight goes down about 5kg so i am not suprised it has gone down also 4 sets all to failure is far too much any thing more than one set to failure is pointless in my opinion(yates did do one set after all not 4 sets going to failure and negatives and what not)
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    RE: bench strength gone down? 2006/07/14 00:16:51 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mak

    Hi all,

    I stopped doing flat barbell bench a while ago and basically just did dumbells, now my dumbell bench FLEW up which was great, but I was expecting that as my pecs, shoulders and tris grew bigger and stronger, I'd go back to barbell bench and it's be better, but it actually seems to have gone down a lot.

    Why is this?

    Also, what's the best way of increasing bench press weight.
    4 rep sets to failure? or 1 rep max sets? or just keep doing the 6-8 reps and GRADUALLY build up slowly?



    I don't mean to sound harsh but this really is a no brainer. When a golfer says he's stopped practising putting and wonders why none of his birdie attempts are going in, you call him a fool. You stop bench pressing, your bench press gets worse. Simple as.

    There are loads of ways of getting stronger on bench press. By and large, they all involve steady progressive stimulus with lowish reps, and they usually don't include going to failure.
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    RE: bench strength gone down? 2006/07/17 19:06:19 (permalink)
    How long did you quit flat benching? I quit for about 6 weeks and subbed dumbells due to a sore shoulder and came back to barbells actually a little stronger... you must of been off em a while..
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    RE: bench strength gone down? 2006/07/18 00:00:49 (permalink)
    Using dumbbells may have strengthened your stabilizers but the lack of heavy weight has weakened the core muscles. You'll see the better routines include some kind of stabilizer work and bench (of the varying kinds).

     
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