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2014/10/27 08:45:28 (permalink)

best bulker and cutter to buy for a newbie

hi 
    im starting training this week, i want a helping hand,  so question is this  what are best suppliments to take , ive heard sustanon and deca mix . 
 
  open to suggestions  plus where to buy .     thanks
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Re: best bulker and cutter to buy for a newbie 2014/10/27 08:57:32 (permalink)
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Re: best bulker and cutter to buy for a newbie 2014/10/27 09:24:44 (permalink)
Oh dear lord...

Sust and deca are steroids, you don't need them and you really don't want time asking for steroid sources on a forum

Eat and train and see how you get on before worrying about 'supplements'
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Re: best bulker and cutter to buy for a newbie 2014/10/27 09:53:41 (permalink)
Creatine!

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Re: best bulker and cutter to buy for a newbie 2014/10/27 09:56:19 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby gavin882 2014/10/28 13:09:14
yeah mix those two into a protein shake and take 3 times daily, you will get shredded and massive at the same time!
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Re: 2014/10/27 13:05:02 (permalink)
A bulker and a cutter? New one on me... pick a goal then eat and supplement (if needed) accordingly. But be clear on your aim first, then you might get more help
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Re: 2014/10/27 14:58:44 (permalink)
thread does not disappoint.
 
to answer your question n00b, the best bulker and cutter is chicken.
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Re: 2014/10/27 19:07:46 (permalink)
Starting training this week and want steroids.
Gotta be a wind up surely!
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Re: 2014/10/27 19:21:43 (permalink)
Hi 
 
Not going to agree with the OP i am new to the whole weight training more cardio based but I need some advice on supps if possible. i do not want to get involved with steroids as I am a boxer and been asked by my coaches to build size and put strength on. 
 
i once weighed 119 kg of fat, now I am around 81 kg and have around 13% body fat. In all honesty I wanna train hard and get stronger. If i get to 90 kg and its muscle I will be a happy lad. 
 
Just looking for advice to get bigger and stronger. Ideally a 12-18 month plan for myself to get where I want to be and then I can compete in the ring with people I feel I can compete against
 
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Re: 2014/10/27 19:30:57 (permalink)
Do all the main compound exercises TomAvo.
Squats, deadlifts, bench press, rows, shoulder presses, etc plus obviously the core work being a boxer
 
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Re: 2014/10/27 19:32:01 (permalink)
TomAvo
Hi 
 
Not going to agree with the OP i am new to the whole weight training more cardio based but I need some advice on supps if possible. i do not want to get involved with steroids as I am a boxer and been asked by my coaches to build size and put strength on. 
 
i once weighed 119 kg of fat, now I am around 81 kg and have around 13% body fat. In all honesty I wanna train hard and get stronger. If i get to 90 kg and its muscle I will be a happy lad. 
 
Just looking for advice to get bigger and stronger. Ideally a 12-18 month plan for myself to get where I want to be and then I can compete in the ring with people I feel I can compete against
 
Thanks




Youd get better responses in your own thread or just a different one mate.
 
Bigger stronger, get your diet training and rest right . You only need supplements to supplement your diet so get your protein intake right and find out if you need to supplement with protein after training is always a good time.
 
I would always recommend creatine as its proven and cheap.



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Re: 2014/10/27 19:36:13 (permalink)
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TomAvo
Hi 
 
Not going to agree with the OP i am new to the whole weight training more cardio based but I need some advice on supps if possible. i do not want to get involved with steroids as I am a boxer and been asked by my coaches to build size and put strength on. 
 
i once weighed 119 kg of fat, now I am around 81 kg and have around 13% body fat. In all honesty I wanna train hard and get stronger. If i get to 90 kg and its muscle I will be a happy lad. 
 
Just looking for advice to get bigger and stronger. Ideally a 12-18 month plan for myself to get where I want to be and then I can compete in the ring with people I feel I can compete against
 
Thanks




Youd get better responses in your own thread or just a different one mate.
 
Bigger stronger, get your diet training and rest right . You only need supplements to supplement your diet so get your protein intake right and find out if you need to supplement with protein after training is always a good time.
 
I would always recommend creatine as its proven and cheap.


Lol oh yeah supps sorry,
As above enough protein ideally from diet and creatine is a good 'un
Diet all the way though.
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Re: 2014/10/27 19:49:39 (permalink)
I put a post on beginner but have not had much response as yet. 
 
I have been advised 
 
BCAA
Creatine
Protein 
 
I have protein already as I take it regular whilst I have been boxing etc. 
 
I do a decent amount of training but when I don't train I feel like its a wasted day, Tonight is the first time in months that I have not trained in the gym or gone boxing, I am shattered and my body is telling me to rest I think so I thought tonight would be good to join here and chat to a few guys who knows what they are talking about :)
 
Would anyone recommend the above 3 supps?
 
Also, what about protein bars/flapjacks as snacks? I know they are full of sugar but any decent ones what are low in sugar?
 
I am looking to train 3 times a week when lifting weights and cutting back on the cardio. 
 
So this week it will be Tues/Thurs/Fri in the gym and 2 days 30 mins work out at home using 9kg kettle bell / own body weight.
 
On the three gym days what muscle groups should i train together?
 
Sorry with all the questions just want to get this right :)
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Re: 2014/10/27 19:53:01 (permalink)
Quest bars are pretty much the best protein bars macro wise, taste pretty decent too.
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Re: 2014/10/27 20:00:17 (permalink)
Definitely listen to your body. Nothing wrong with a rest day except if it's just laziness talking. But in your case I'd take 2 or 3 days off. You won't have regressed esp if you're knackered. You'll more than likely be more energised after the break.
Bcaas are good, more so if you're dieting down. If you've had protein not too long before your workout and will be having a shake afterwards you'll be fine.
I'd be more inclined to do 4 - 5 days a week in the gym getting all the muscles trained twice each week and loose the home bodyweight workouts.
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Re: 2014/10/27 20:04:52 (permalink)
The home body work outs are because of the opening times of the gym and my working pattern. from next week I should be able to hit the gym minimum 4 times a week. 
 
What would you recommend as a 4 day training plan? Which muscles together?
 
Not really dieting down, don't wanna get ' belly fat' though so would a weight management supp be a good idea? 
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Re: 2014/10/28 10:10:29 (permalink)
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The home body work outs are because of the opening times of the gym and my working pattern. from next week I should be able to hit the gym minimum 4 times a week. 
 
What would you recommend as a 4 day training plan? Which muscles together?
 
Not really dieting down, don't wanna get ' belly fat' though so would a weight management supp be a good idea? 




Your nutritional intake is the most important thing for results. Get that on point first, and then plug the gaps with supps.
 
Creatine is one of the most researched, safest and best supps out there. Take 5g daily, job done.
 
BCAA's... You'll get mixed reviews on these, but if you eat enough good food, you wont need these. 
 
Protein... Well you need this! Get it in the form of real whole food like chicken, beef, eggs, fish etc and then throw in the odd shake. There are tons of options out there, but again, it's all about what you take in nutritionally as a whole.
 
You need fuel to perform, the body is like a race car... And you wouldn't put crappy fuel in a race car and expect it to perform optimally. Boxers need good fuel to perform, and food is fuel! 

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Re: best bulker and cutter to buy for a newbie 2014/10/28 13:08:56 (permalink)
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Creatine!




L leucine as well
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Re: best bulker and cutter to buy for a newbie 2014/10/28 21:38:23 (permalink)
read the articles on this site.
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Re: best bulker and cutter to buy for a newbie 2014/10/31 10:26:37 (permalink)
ok fair enough,   i know guys who never trained in their lives and have went on roids !!!   anyway  what is a good creatine to get , tablet form , plus a recommended daily dosage , i will aim to train 1 hour in gym 4 times a week.
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