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2003/12/13 23:49:24 (permalink)

breast implants

this is going to sound so clumsy...

i was wondering what everyone thinks about breast implants. lately whenever i look at the women with boob jobs in m&f, m&f hers, oxygen etc. i can't help but feel they somehow detract from the woman's physical achievements. by this i mean they've obviously worked so hard to get their bodies to where they are but then have breast implants as if to say their hard work is not enough. with their low body fat levels comes reduction in breast size, implants don't quite look right to me. how does everyone else feel?

don't get me wrong, i'm not passing judgements on women that have breast implants. i'm all for choice etc.

my own history with boobs/ boobs jobs: i've always been very self conscious about my small chest size, feeling that i wasn't womanly. about a year and a half ago my bf offerred to pay for a breast enlargement, it wasn't because it bothered him but because he knew it made me unhappy. i saw 2 surgeons for consultations. first one with 20 years experience told me physically i was the ideal candidate but due to my ethnicity and keloid scarring he guessed i'd have a 70% chance of capsule contracture, ie, scar tissue would form around implant making it necessary to remove it and retry etc, in the best case scenario my breasts would be "hard like wood" (his words). i came out of his office almost in tears because i wanted it so badly.

the second surgeon had only a few years experience. he let me try on 300cc implants under my t-shirt. when i looked in the mirror i just felt like me. it felt so right. he told me he didn't know about my increased risk of capsular contracture.

after discussing it with bf i decided not to go through with it. i couldn't face the high risk of multiple surgeries etc.

about six months ago i was at a male friend's house, flicking through a dodgy book of his - not quite soft porn but topless asian women. what struck me, apart from the dodginess (asian women bearing their bodies for the white male gaze!!) was that the majority of them had more or less the same size boobs as me, a few had smaller, only one or two had significantly bigger. at that point my opinions changed - i have small boobs but they're right for my body. my views/expectations regarding breast size were so distorted! i've come to appreciate smaller chest sizes. now i wouldn't have a boob job even if i had 100% chance of success.
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    Scourge_of_God
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 00:53:49 (permalink)
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

    (The Beautiful People, The Beautiful People...)
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 05:51:30 (permalink)
    i think breast implants look horrible, but i'm a straight female so maybe its not me they are for. and what if you lose some feeling, all that pleasure you'll be missing.

    i am also very flat chested, but i have seen an improvement since lifting heavy. i even have a cleavage, although my husband says its a muscle cleavage so doesnt count. i reckon a cleavage is a cleavage and it does. i no longer have to wear childrens bras now i have reached the gigantic proportions of a 34a

    i love being flat chested as they dont get in the way and are very sensitve[:p].if i want a bigger chest i just use gel or air bras, buy a bigger size and add extra padding.
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 10:04:24 (permalink)
    My wife had a breast enlargement just over a year ago she was a 32B before having the kids,she got back into shape after the last birth and her boobs disappeared all she had was some saggy skin,they did look awful and even her own mother was shocked when she saw them in the flesh i never said anything and always said they were fine,it got to the stage were she wouldnt let me see her naked at all and would cover herself up if i came into the bathroom while she was having a bath,she was also convinced i didnt find her attractive anymore.

    She was recommended a surgeon by her GP,even going private he had a 6 month waiting list,one thing she wanted was for them to look natural and not to look like two ballons,he made a really good job and they look perfect they even bounce like real breasts,they are a 34D now which isnt massive but they look right for her size,they are also more sensitive to the touch.
    My wife is now like a different person happy and a lot more confident,so i would say it was a good choice in her case.
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 10:48:17 (permalink)
    pusha - i'm happy with mine. no one's ever complained about them (at least not ot my face) and i'm sure no one would turn me down on account of their size.

    i thought it relevant to explain my experiences because i do understand how bodybuilding ladies might feel lack of femininity when they diet down and lose their boobs.

    scourge - think beauty is more in the eyes of the beheld. when i started liking myself i became much more physically beautiful.

    levi - agree: cleavage is cleavage! i wear 34a too. since i've been lifting my back has gotten wider so i'm probably more like a 36aa! hahaha

    trebor - glad your wife feels better about herself :)

    my question was more related to how do people feel about breast implants on women bodybuilders. to me they don't look quite right - there's usually a gap between them and as body fat levels are low the edge of the implant is visible. i feel they're saying "all my hard work is not enough, i still have to put two sacks of silicone in my body." i think weight training is a way for women to change their bodies and improve their self image but having role models that have implants takes away from that somewhat.
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 11:03:09 (permalink)
    I like the natural look, But thats just my opinion i know some people who love women with tit jobs
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 13:42:05 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by kinkymisspinky


    lately whenever i look at the women with boob jobs in m&f, m&f hers, oxygen etc. i can't help but feel they somehow detract from the woman's physical achievements.


    KMP, I totally agree, obvious false breasts look very unattractive to me, but I think the girls in those mags, and obviously a certain amount of women in the 'adult entertainment' industry are under pressure to have breast enlargements.

    However, from reading Trebours post
    (thanks that's very interesting)
    it is apparent that it is possible to have implants that look natural. I guess the thing is we only notice implants when they look unnatural, so we form the impression that all breast impants look unnatural.

    An impressive cleavage may look wonderful, but I agree with Levi, it's high maintenance, uncomfortable, and then you get that annoying thing where men talk to your tits and not your face[:p] besides, the bigger they are the further they fall!

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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 13:58:09 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by kinkymisspinky

    my question was more related to how do people feel about breast implants on women bodybuilders. to me they don't look quite right - there's usually a gap between them and as body fat levels are low the edge of the implant is visible. i feel they're saying "all my hard work is not enough, i still have to put two sacks of silicone in my body." i think weight training is a way for women to change their bodies and improve their self image but having role models that have implants takes away from that somewhat.



    The whole thing with female bbers is complex, most people find it very very hard to accept a woman who has that degree of muscularity, ideas of what is feminine & what is masculine are largely social constructs, but the pressure to conform to these constructs is overwhelming.
    Women are derided for being unfeminine as much as men are derided for being unmasculine, that I presume is why some women bber feel the need for extremely large implants. I also think it completely ruins their physiques.


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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 14:18:34 (permalink)
    I agree when female bodybuilders diet down it can make false boobs look really obvious...not nice..however in 'normal' people and off season fitness girls they can look really good.

    I have never had large breasts (to put it mildly!) but since I came off the pill they're a lot smaller! If I wanted to 'grow' them again, I could, but I'd rather sacrifice that for the benfits of losing the 'oestrogenic fat' and pumping my body with female hormones, which runs counter to my training goals.

    Never really considered implants because as with you Pinky, I scar really badly, and I'm just not bothered enough to spend the money (which I don't have anyway) Although if I was offered them I might consider it! But even then I wouldn't want big ones and I don't think they'd suit me!
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 15:31:51 (permalink)
    I think natural looks best definitely. I think implants are a good idea for women who have very little breast development, whether they look good or not all I can say is sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. Many turn out looking like 2 plastic orbs that have been glued onto the chest and this is very unattractive. I think a good implant should look as natural as possible.

    With regards women bodybuilders, many virtually lose their breasts altogether which obviously is going to reduce their femininity in the eyes of men. Obviously it's a personal choice as to whether they want to get that lean but if so I can understand why they would get implants but as I said above they can often end up looking very fake. I think fitness models like Monica Brant strike a good balance between leanness and femininity, I don't know if she has had implants but if she has then they turned out very well for her!
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 19:19:57 (permalink)
    You can definitely tell the difference between real and false. I have 2 friends. 1 has implants and they look unnatural because they never move and they are out of proportion to the rest of her petite body. She gets so many snide comments which is emotionally affecting her that she is considering having them removed. The other friend had a breast reduction operation even though her boobs were not abnormally large, she has been left with horrendous scars. Moral to this is be grateful for what you are blessed with. Things could always be worse!
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 19:31:15 (permalink)
    medusa - you're so much more succinct than i am! do you think female bodybuilders with large implants can still bench heavy? i'm presuming they'd have their implants placed under the muscle as over the muscle is really only suitable for women with some breast tissue.

    gymbabe - never been on the pill for more than a month but will probably start next cycle so don't know much about pill and body fat... are you saying the pill causes you to hold fat? are you finding it easier to drop bodyfat now you're off the pill? by the way, you look great - don't think bigger boobs could make you look any better.

    cheeky - brant probably has implants - she drops to about 10% bodyfat, can't imagine that 10% concentrated in her chest. reading oxygen the other day: jen hendershot said she was the only one on stage without implants.

    if a female bodybuilder chooses to drop bodyfat she also chooses to drop boobie fat - don't the two go hand in hand?
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 19:34:41 (permalink)
    angel - now i think about it, i'm glad the surgeon told me not to have them. think they'd look very wrong on me. also, it makes me happy to be able to accept myself.
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 19:43:56 (permalink)
    Cool! You have won the battle once you accept yourself as you are. Good for you!
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 20:25:25 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by kinkymisspinky

    do you think female bodybuilders with large implants can still bench heavy? i'm presuming they'd have their implants placed under the muscle as over the muscle is really only suitable for women with some breast tissue.


    well yeah, makes you wonder, I cetainly wouldn't sacrice benching for tits!

    quote:
    Originally posted by kinkymisspinky

    if a female bodybuilder chooses to drop bodyfat she also chooses to drop boobie fat - don't the two go hand in hand?



    A few women have large breast with naturaly low b/f (bitches-I hate em[:p]) but for sure toget you b/f low enough to comptete you'd loose alot of breast tissue, as most of it is fat.
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 23:38:03 (permalink)
    Pinky, the pill didnt make me fat but I had a little cellulite when I was on it that just wouldn't budge maybe because it makes you hold water? I think it can vary so don't get put off trying the pill (you can always come off it) but I felt that maybe being on it was making it harder to drop bodyfat. The reason I went on it in the first place was because as I was a bit spotty my natural testosterone was presumed to be too high. When I went on it the spots cleared up and I grew a bust! But I figured I would rather have the testosterone for training and (touch wood) my skin hasn't been as bad as it was before since coming off anyway. The breast thing I don't care about so much, if a man thinks i'm too flat chested he can just go find someone who suits his needs better for all i care :)
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/14 23:59:27 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by kinkymisspinky

    do you think female bodybuilders with large implants can still bench heavy?


    The decrease in ROM would be useful for female powerlifters...
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/15 22:30:53 (permalink)
    Don't like implants.
    IMO they look "fake" which they are anyway.
    OK, they look no differant when clothed but say you lie down naked and they stay there.
    TREBOR's wives sound good but I would still say don't do it unless it was for physical reasons like A cups which is understandable (but I don't personally mind em) why you might want to be a bit bigger, women who have had cancer or accident or as in Trebors case would be worthy reason.
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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/18 11:37:25 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Medusa
    [brA few women have large breast with naturaly low b/f (bitches-I hate em[:p])


    You'd hate me then I'm a good stone and a half over weight at the moment and I'm a 36F. When I got married I weighed 7 1/2 stone, very low body fat and my boobies were still a 32DD!! I'm only 5 feet tall so you can imagine how stupid they look.

    I too have seen the scaring that reductions cause and so I've left them as they are for the time being but being on the way to 40 they are distinctly headed towards my knees and it ain't going to look pretty.

    Personally I love small breasts on a woman and I've always admired the pec muscles on the body building girls so I prefer the natural look. However it does seem that the mainly male judges prefer the girls to have boobs and so unfortunately implants are pretty much mandatory for competitions.

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    RE: breast implants 2003/12/18 15:05:10 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Dormouse

    quote:
    Originally posted by Medusa
    [brA few women have large breast with naturaly low b/f (bitches-I hate em[:p])


    You'd hate me then I'm a good stone and a half over weight at the moment and I'm a 36F. When I got married I weighed 7 1/2 stone, very low body fat and my boobies were still a 32DD!! I'm only 5 feet tall so you can imagine how stupid they look.



    Yes, terrible (he says shaking his head). ;)

    To be honest, its each to their own really. I used to be a ass man, but my current & ex before that girlfiends have been DD`s, and have "converted" me.

    I dont mind girls who have implants. As long as they are not hedieously oversized. One of my smaller breasted ex`s (32B) desperately wanted implants because her ex boyfriend had constantly said her tits were too small for her to become a model. I thought they looked fine, but she wouldnt listen.
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