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2009/07/22 20:50:10 (permalink)

building a website?

this is probably beyond me, but could someone give me some pointers about how or if its possible?  I really need a business website, but cant afford to spend the money on a professional one. 
 
How do i register a domain name?
 
host a site?
 
Build a site?  are there programs i can buy?  doesnt need to be anything flash, i think i need maybe 10-12 pages,  ie- home, meet the team, work examples, a flash film of a sequence of photos in a 'watch a house being built feature'  contacts.  etc etc.
 
Make it come up in searches.  at the moment if i search for 'builders in where i live'  there are no companies come up.
 
is it remotely do-able?
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    paulthebuilder
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 20:54:14 (permalink)
    Bizarre you mention this mate.
    My missus started learning a few months ago from scratch and is now about to get interviewed for some web designer jobs after building up a right little portfolio.

    She started out with no knowledge and is now familiar with all this weird sh1t - php, javascript, mysql, dreamweaver etc.

    I haven't a clue how it all works but she said there are that many free video tutorials online it's a piece of p*** to get a decent page done if you spend a week or so learning.
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 20:57:51 (permalink)
    has she got any links to 'how to' things?

    not sure if i could fit it in, im working 60 hours a week, building an extension at home and training for my show, but my business is missing out bigtime not having a website i think
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 20:59:53 (permalink)
    wish her luck on the job front from me mate
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 21:08:37 (permalink)
    what do people think of .net or .biz  addresses?

    our company name and both trading names are already registered at both .com and .co.uk

    and for really crappy websites as well   grrrrrr
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 21:11:59 (permalink)
    Start here mate:
    http://www.how-to-build-websites.com/
    Look in the "featured video tutorial" box thing.
    post edited by rightyho - 2009/07/22 21:13:08
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 21:12:24 (permalink)
    what do people think of fasthost?  they seem to have decent prices on domains and also hosing, and have a website building tool included as part of a package?

    any good?  whats to stop a domain company upping the montly price in the future and you losing your website if you dont agree?
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 21:44:17 (permalink)
    I've signed up a new domain with 123 reg, hosting with eukhost, and I'm going to start learning php, and work on improving my html, with a view to using joomla with virtuemart (open source) for a shop and blog.

    Thanks fo the link, righty.



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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 21:47:14 (permalink)
    dazc

    what do people think of fasthost?  they seem to have decent prices on domains and also hosing, and have a website building tool included as part of a package?

    any good?  whats to stop a domain company upping the montly price in the future and you losing your website if you dont agree?

    Best and quickest way to build a half decent website is to draw a rough plan out in photoshop, chop it up, save it as a HTML open it in dreamweaver and then pop in the buttons.
     
    If you don't get this, good luck LOL.
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 21:56:33 (permalink)
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    dazc

    what do people think of fasthost?  they seem to have decent prices on domains and also hosing, and have a website building tool included as part of a package?

    any good?  whats to stop a domain company upping the montly price in the future and you losing your website if you dont agree?

    Best and quickest way to build a half decent website is to draw a rough plan out in photoshop, chop it up, save it as a HTML open it in dreamweaver and then pop in the buttons.
     
    If you don't get this, good luck LOL.


    was right with you untill the website part. . .  lol  :-(
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:11:33 (permalink)
    You can teach yourself some stuff- I was really into it but I spent a long, long time sat in front of a computer tweaking and fiddling just to get very basic things to happen.

    Like this (its 6 years old this now and there are some bugs in it that I haven't bothered to correct so it looks wrong on Firefox):
    http://www.robsquibb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

    Just started tinkering again recently:
    http://www.robsquibb.pw...er.co.uk/test/index.html

    But I've no real reason to build a website so not really taking it anywhere.

    I used 1&1 for domain name, very cheap and reliable service.  Used to run my own server for it so not sure on that front.

    Daz- can't make any promises, I'll have a little think about it if you tell me exactly how much work is involved, but while I'm out of work I might put something very basic together for you that you can tinker with if you like?  I'm no expert by any stretch, I only know basic xhtml and CSS (and teaching myself a little php while I'm at it, thanks for a couple of MTers), but can put together are simple format that looks ok and will be easy to replace/edit?

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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:12:35 (permalink)
    1&1 Internet hosting/domains:
    http://order.1and1.co.u...0a?__reuse=1248297166284

    Thread I started last week when I started tinkering again:
    http://www.muscletalk.c...lding-bods-m3487287.aspx
    post edited by 26 - 2009/07/22 22:14:50

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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:16:34 (permalink)
    Have you ever heard o Joomla?

    Joomla is very easy to use, and its not greatly expensive.... its not that hard to edit either really,

    As for .net, /biz I would not personally use them, Imo they look cheaper than .com or co.uk url.

    if you want have a look at my mums webiste, www.poochieparlour.co.uk it is running joomla and shows what can be done.
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:18:13 (permalink)
    rightyho My missus started learning a few months ago from scratch and is now about to get interviewed for some web designer jobs after building up a right little portfolio.

     
    Nice one mate, have a link to any of her work?
     
    Dazc - you can learn basic HTML and CSS, but whether its worth it is another matter... To make a decent looking site you would have to be pretty comfortable with HTML, CSS and possibly photoshop or another image editting program to create the images which compose the design, plus a logo etc. Its all possible to learn, but I am not sure it will be a quick process (depending on what you know already of course).
     
    You can get free tamplates online which you would only need limited knowledge to add in your own content and tie in the pages, but it obviously won't be bespoke. I have not really looked into this, so may be worth having a look. Do any of the major hosting companies not offer any kind of content management system package? A so called "Website builder" where you choose a template and you can add in your own content - I am not sure again here, but worth a look.
    If you truely believe a site will offer an advantage to your business then maybe getting it done by a professional is not such a bad idea? Outlay of maybe £500 or so, but would it pay for itself if you attracted more clients? A great website can be a great marketing tool, but a substandard one may put people off (possibly more so than if you didn't even have a website, i.e. people checking you out online who were thinking of using your services)? Dunno here - just thinking out loud.
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:18:47 (permalink)
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    Have you ever heard o Joomla?

    Joomla is very easy to use, and its not greatly expensive.... its not that hard to edit either really,

    As for .net, /biz I would not personally use them, Imo they look cheaper than .com or co.uk url.

    if you want have a look at my mums webiste, www.poochieparlour.co.uk it is running joomla and shows what can be done.

    Agree with the .net/.biz, they look naff, like second-rate injury compensation companies or something. 

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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:20:55 (permalink)
    markfj

    Have you ever heard o Joomla?

    Joomla is very easy to use, and its not greatly expensive.... its not that hard to edit either really,

    As for .net, /biz I would not personally use them, Imo they look cheaper than .com or co.uk url.

    if you want have a look at my mums webiste, www.poochieparlour.co.uk it is running joomla and shows what can be done.


    No offence mate because I don't like to offend people on here but that design is not good.
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:24:03 (permalink)
    dazc

    this is probably beyond me, but could someone give me some pointers about how or if its possible?  I really need a business website, but cant afford to spend the money on a professional one. 
     
    How do i register a domain name? host a site?
     
    Go to any host, I use One and One hosting, £7 p/month for hosting(on the package I'm on) and £2 p/year for my .co.uk domain name, they have their own website builder; I havent used it so cant really comment on it.
     
    Build a site?  are there programs i can buy?  doesnt need to be anything flash, i think i need maybe 10-12 pages,  ie- home, meet the team, work examples, a flash film of a sequence of photos in a 'watch a house being built feature'  contacts.  etc etc.
     
    You can make a 'basic website' with really basic HTML coding, there is some good free videos on HTML coding. But to get a REALLY good HTML design website you need to already be in the website design business as its damn hard.
     
    There are lots of brilliant website builders ( Some included on your hosting site ) out there but no good free ones. Try and find one with a trial and give it a shot, mess around with the styles and try and make one yourself.
     
    Flash is beyond me, It seems really techy stuff.
     
    Make it come up in searches.  at the moment if i search for 'builders in where i live'  there are no companies come up.
     
    For this you need to register your domain name with google and in a week to two weeks it should appear on the search engine.
     
    is it remotely do-able?
     
    Yes, from my experience. I've recently ( within the last month ) put up a website. It took me a good 7-10 days before I understood what I needed to do and find out the best way of creating it then coding it.
     
    Word of warning:
     
    There are a lot of tutorials out on the net, but 60% of them are sh!t 30% are asking for stupid amounts of money and that 10% are real gems but take hours to find.
     
     
    Hope this somewhat helps.


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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:24:11 (permalink)
    dazc

    what do people think of .net or .biz  addresses?

    our company name and both trading names are already registered at both .com and .co.uk

    and for really crappy websites as well   grrrrrr


    dazc
     
    what do people think of fasthost?  they seem to have decent prices on domains and also hosing, and have a website building tool included as part of a package?
     

     
     
    I personaly would choose .co.uk
     
    If you want to dominate searches, also it's good to have a keyword in your domain name.
     
    Also, Fasthots are absolutely shocking, stay well clear.
     
     
     
    You would be suprised the price you could pay to have a small site built, by the time you've payed for hosting, domain and your own time, also taking into account the results, for a couple of hundred quid you might be better off.
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:25:35 (permalink)

    EDIT  to Rightyho
    I wont take offence at all, cheers

    umm... do you mean the homepage or rest of site out of interest?

    post edited by markfj - 2009/07/22 22:26:46
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    Re:building a website? 2009/07/22 22:27:21 (permalink)
    heres a couple of sites in my industry that i like the look of

    http://www.tjpybus.co.uk/

    http://www.dab-commercial.co.uk/


    im thinking something closer to the first one rather than the second, though that is quite a cool site.  I dont want it too busy, people only need some pictures of a range of jobs,  a page about the company, the services,  a contact page and maybe a page about my trade registrations and insurances to give peace of mind

    26, thats a kind offer mate, though im not the type of person to blag stuff or try get people to do stuff for me! 
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