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2015/01/02 23:02:40 (permalink)
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burning nipples 3rd week into pct

Hi there. This was my first injectable cycle, I started pct 2 weeks after my last pin. This was a 10week 500test e cycle. But I had been getting pins and needles and numbness in my hands. And now my nipples are burning. The pins and needles are normally when I sleep. I have adex nova and clomid to hand and looking for some advice on how to stop this burning in my nipples. I was at day 20 of my pct and was due to stop. My pct was a standard 100/40 clom tam for 10days and then 50/20 last 10. Any advice will be greatly received. Thanks
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    Re: burning nipples 3rd week into pct 2015/01/02 23:08:16 (permalink)
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    Two weeks is way too long to wait from test E. Hell I see very little reason to wait at all, PCT meds take some time to kick in anyway.
     
    Anyway your problem is estrogen. The clomid and nolva should prevent it from bothering your nipples but for some reason aren't. They won't help with the pins and needles at all. Use the arimidex and it'll solve all your problems. May be a good idea to tapper off later and avoid a rebound, just to be on the safe side.
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    Re: burning nipples 3rd week into pct 2015/01/02 23:12:10 (permalink)
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    I used the adex during my cycle, I will pop half of a tablet in the morning. And up my clomid to 100 and nova to 40 for a few days until it subsides then back down to 50/20. Thanks for you advice. Would you recommend this or something else? Cheers Andy
    post edited by Andy1977 - 2015/01/02 23:13:59
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    Re: burning nipples 3rd week into pct 2015/01/02 23:12:11 (permalink)
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    post edited by Andy1977 - 2015/01/02 23:13:33
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    Re: burning nipples 3rd week into pct 2015/01/02 23:18:05 (permalink)
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    Let the adex do its thing, don't use the clomid or nolva. Just don't use some pansy dose like .25mg eod. Use like a miligram a day, then gradually reduce when you don't need it anymore.
    post edited by Uriel - 2015/01/11 10:03:48
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    Re: burning nipples 3rd week into pct 2015/01/02 23:27:45 (permalink)
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    Thanks for your advice. I will take .5Each day at first as when I was taking this amount every other day it became apparent is was too much for me. I am a little worried about taking too much. I will continue with the 50/20 alongside until subsides. Unfortunately I have been unable to train through my pct due to personal reasons and I've had to be going to hospitals every day because of a family member. So the last month hasn't gone to my plan at all. Appreciate your time
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    Re: burning nipples 3rd week into pct 2015/01/02 23:27:45 (permalink)
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    Thanks for your advice. I will take .5Each day at first as when I was taking this amount every other day it became apparent is was too much for me. I am a little worried about taking too much. I will continue with the 50/20 alongside until subsides. Unfortunately I have been unable to train through my pct due to personal reasons and I've had to be going to hospitals every day because of a family member. So the last month hasn't gone to my plan at all. Appreciate your time
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    Re: 2015/01/03 10:17:46 (permalink)
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    Uriel, very little reason to wait at all really? What's the shorted time after last test E Jab? Six days?

    Andy when I started the cycle I'm on now my right Nipple looked like it almost doubled in size due to lack of adex, I thought id be okay but no joking after my first injection the next day it was worrying how puffy it looked - adex 1mg a day for a week then halved the dose till it had gone away and it worked well.

    My Nipples to weren't burning just very sensitive, tingly feeling it wasn't very nice at all.

    If you ever run a cycle again don't start your first jab until you've been on adex a couple of days first, not really worth the risk. You'll hear people say adex will crush your estrogen that's a load of crap just something someone's plucked out of thin air, .5mg ed is enough for me on 500mg test E some get by on that dose eod or e3d.

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    Re: 2015/01/04 07:20:23 (permalink)
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    Uriel how long do you wait then ?
    Ive always been told and read 2-3 weeks after last test e jab start pct .
    is this all bullsh*t then ?

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    Re: 2015/01/04 09:30:04 (permalink)
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    Pretty much yes. Well the idea behind it is that while you have lots of steroids in you your own production won't start no matter how many PCT meds you throw in, which is true. But for starters enanthates are pretty much completely out of your system after a week so any more time than that and you're just waiting and losing gains for nothing.
     
    And PCT meds like nolva take much longer than a week to reach steady state blood levels anyway so no reason not to start early and by the time you have no more outside hormones in you there's already an ample amount of nolva in your system. In theory the nolva may cause your testosterone production to start even before the outside hormone is completely gone (for example in normal conditions your HPTA might restart when your test levels fall below 100ng/dl but with nolva this may happen when it's still at say 300ng/dl because it's reducing the suppressive effect of the steroids).
     
    Of course you could always wait until the exact day when enough of the drugs have cleared away for production to start (which is impossible to know accurately), and dump a butload of nolva at once to reach steady state levels right away (which is why people frontload it), but it's unlikely you'll ever start at the exact right day and these meds are toxic themselves, using a lot at once is far harsher on your system than a lower dose spread out.
     
    So I say just start with some 20mg of nolva the very day of your last jab (or the next, or before, doesn't make much difference) and keep taking it for some 6-8 weeks to cover all your bases, this way you're never wasting time counting the days to start taking it, never using a crazy dose that will be harmful to you, and running it for longer ensures better recovery and that you don't crash post-PCT by ending it too soon when you're still recovering.
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    Re: 2015/01/04 09:39:09 (permalink)
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    Uriel thanks for that reply . Always read your posts you know your stuff.

    Andy sorry for the hi- jack 😊

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    Re: 2015/01/04 10:05:54 (permalink)
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    Strange how it's almost repeated everywhere that it's two weeks after last jab even though I know the half life is a week with test e.

    I have a habit well it's only natural to believe something if you see hundreds of people spouting the same stuff
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    Re: 2015/01/04 11:15:22 (permalink)
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    One week isn't the half life of test E, it's pretty much the time it takes for it to clear away completely. Enanthates aren't as slow esters as people think. Same for cypionate.
     
    Half life is 5 days or so. But anyways my point is you don't need to wait for it to be gone to start your PCT meds. Worst case scenario is you start taking too soon and for a while they're not doing anything, so you waste a few cheap pills. But starting early you can be absolute sure that as soon as they can work, they will.
     
    Risking starting too soon rather than too late is preferable IMHO. I'd rather waste a handful of nolva pills than spend several days with the testosterone levels of a woman feeling like **** and losing gains.
    post edited by Uriel - 2015/01/04 11:18:41
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    Re: 2015/01/04 11:21:08 (permalink)
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    Always learning, makes me wonder if I should switch my tri test and 800 blend to every 5 days instead of once per week
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    Re: 2015/01/04 12:09:32 (permalink)
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    My last cycle was test e and i waited 21 days before starting pct the first two weeks of pct my sex drive was terrible
    So doing it your way would that not have happened ?
    Would i not get that same crash .

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    Re: 2015/01/04 12:20:21 (permalink)
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    21 days is a long bloody time, I only waited two weeks and still felt terrible.

    Ill follow uriels advice, but I'll probably start two days after last injection when I eventually do start my pct
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    Re: 2015/01/08 18:27:17 (permalink)
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    Uriel can u give me some advise or anyone de for that matter as I don't know what the best thing to do is.

    I finished my last injection of test e at 500mg a week for 10 weeks about 4 weeks go now although it could be 5. I struggled big time to get some nolva for pct and have only just got my hands on it. Should I even bother doing it now seeing as it has been so long. I Literally no idea what the best thing to do is.

    Leave it or start it ?

    Any help appreciated
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    Re: 2015/01/08 20:06:39 (permalink)
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    Best to start a new post mate, but yes take it rite away same as you would have when you should have.

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    Re: 2015/01/10 14:07:26 (permalink)
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    Does everyone agree?
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    Re: 2015/01/11 10:06:49 (permalink)
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    I would definitely take it to be on the safe side, it's unlikely your test levels are very good now or will be in the near future without any help. You can use nolva whenever you want with no real downside, you can use nolva even if you've never used steroids at all, it'll increase your testosterone levels for some time and they'll just drop back to normal when you stop.
     
    20mg ed for 6 weeks or so should do the trick.
    post edited by Uriel - 2015/01/11 10:08:18
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