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2003/12/05 15:44:47 (permalink)

calories burned during cardio

I am currently doing a month of CV work before returning to my first love (heavy weights) in the new year - I am trying to get rid of some fat which has decided to pay a visit.I currently spend an hour 3x a week, doing 18min each on the ergo, cross trainer and treadmill.According to the machines calculations, I am burning around 900 calories.I am using thermorexin AM and having tuna/whey during the day.I'm 34, 5'10'' and 16.25 stone (mostly muscle,some fat)
Am I doing enogh to shift some fat?-
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2003/12/05 16:42:30 (permalink)
    Why not lift weights at the same time as you concentrate on cardio?

    Them machine calorie readings are wrong.

    You should be doing enough to shift the fat though depending on your diet.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2003/12/05 17:00:12 (permalink)
    tbh there are so many variables invovlved i wuld take no notice of what the machines say, those readings are there to keep women "glute toners" happy imo.

    as a heavy mature male, to burn 900 kcals in 18 mi would mean rowing faster than matthew pincent. maybe if that was 900kcals/hour it would be more achiveable.

    i would guess if you ran on a treadmil with an incline of 1.5-3% to simulate the same difficulty as running on road, at a pace of 8-10mph you would burn about 100kcals every 5 mins.

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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2003/12/05 19:25:43 (permalink)
    No he said 18 mins EACH on those 3 pieces of equipment which means 54 mins total. That is perfectly achievable if you are jogging.

    You should certainly be losing fat providing you are not eating too much. I assume you are not only eating protein and whey? What is your whole diet like?

    Also you should be doing weights when cutting else you risk losing a significant proportion of that weight as muscle. If you found you didn't have the energy to do weights alongside your cardio then it would be worth cutting your cardio in half in order to accommodate a few weights sessions.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2003/12/05 22:07:18 (permalink)
    18 mins each, oops.

    even so....


    ...18x3= 56, by my estimations [if the same intensity was used on all equipment] he would burn 900kcals in about 45mins, so with the kcal burn estimation side of it i wasn't too far off [11min]

    and too answer his question tht should be fine for losing weight, but [although not a waste of time as it will certainly improve your cardiorespiritory endurance] if your main goal is shifting fat, do more less and often, mis it up more and intergratre HIIT [run a search for thread on this/see my article in the beginners forum] into your workouts.

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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2003/12/17 08:20:06 (permalink)
    That should be very nice for shifting the fat duration wise, but if you aren't lifting weights during this time you might want to bump this up to 4x or 5x a week. Personally I wold rather do it 3x or 4x a week and do a 3 day split lifting wise (maybe some 5x5 action). There is no reason to stop lifting (other than injury, sickness, or death) even if you are trying to cutt some extra fat IMHO.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2003/12/22 14:31:50 (permalink)
    If your running youll probably burn about 8-900 calories in an hour and if jogging about 700.There is a huge difference between jogging and running.

    Dont take too much notice of calories burnt or speeds etc on treadmills if a person is running at about 7 minutes for a mile on the treadmill you can add two minutes or more to road running. also motorised Treadmill running isnt working the same amount of muscles as true running. on a treadmill you are simply lifting your self upwards and supporting yourself as your feet land, in road running you are obviously also having to push yourself forward aswell as up and down.

    superb way of burning fat havent found anything that gives results so fast. It also has the benefit of being an impact / weight bearing exercise.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2003/12/25 20:58:15 (permalink)
    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=66619

    check out this link--before you work out how many calories you've got to burn off you MUST know how many calories you need in the first place!!!!!!!Whats the point in "burning," 900 calories if you only need to burn 300 at the correct heart rate?
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2003/12/27 17:31:11 (permalink)
    Even if 300 calories is enough to lose weight, if you burn 900 you'll lose more weight. Reason enough to do it!

    I am confused about the RMR testing that James is advocating now, I always thought he was anti the calorie counting approach. I assume he was anti it as for many people counting calories will be a real burden, but of course weight loss/gain all comes down to calories in vs. calories out. For me it's a doddle and I couldn't imagine not taking such an exact approach to dieting. I like to know what's going on so I can make more educated adjustments.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/01 12:40:56 (permalink)
    I find it impossible to lift weights properly after cardio, so i make sure i do them on a different day along with my pressups, situps, chinups.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/16 17:42:04 (permalink)
    "if your main goal is shifting fat, do more less and often"

    eh - maybe the way im reading that doesnt make sence to me...
    Your saying, do less [time wise] and more often? [ie 4-5 days a week?]
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/17 13:32:38 (permalink)
    yes i am.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/17 15:11:52 (permalink)
    :)
    top notch !
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/20 01:44:08 (permalink)
    Start lifting those heavy weights again they increase your metabolism by increasing your muscle mass. You will lose more weight that way.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/20 15:31:28 (permalink)
    AD,
    thats is a "mens health statement. in that, for the most part, its wrong. to a degree, being muscular will help burn more kcals at rest, but we are talking adding huge amounts of muscle to burn only another 3-500kcals a day, and there are way too many other factors involved to make your above statement absolute; [lifestyle, eating habbits, genetic variation to name a few]. an example of why your above statement is not correct is glenn ross. big guy, big muscles, lifts v.heavy weights, is also very fat.
    rob
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/22 16:32:48 (permalink)
    Cool Call Robert! I agree with you, I was generalising somewhat there. Can I be forgiven as it was 1.44am??!! How about if "tedster" varied his cardio a bit? He could challenge his body with a bit of HIIT but he could also have days when he trains in the "fat burn" zone staying at a moderate intensity of 70 to 75% of his max heart rate for 20 mins or more. In theory if his diet is good he should be burning fat even though it may feel relatively easy.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/22 16:51:53 (permalink)
    quote:
    AD,
    thats is a "mens health statement. in that, for the most part, its wrong. to a degree, being muscular will help burn more kcals at rest, but we are talking adding huge amounts of muscle to burn only another 3-500kcals a day, and there are way too many other factors involved to make your above statement absolute; [lifestyle, eating habbits, genetic variation to name a few]. an example of why your above statement is not correct is glenn ross. big guy, big muscles, lifts v.heavy weights, is also very fat.
    rob


    Only another 300-500 calories a day? Keeping other things equal that would cause 1-2lbs of weight loss a week!

    Yes of course you could still stay fat if you compensated by eating more, but why would you start eating more?

    I believe adding significant muscle mass is the best long term answer to getting and staying lean.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/22 16:56:27 (permalink)
    Thanks CheekyChappie, I didn't think my post was complete bollocks!
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/22 18:58:46 (permalink)
    CC,

    do you have any idea how much muscle you would need to add to burn off that 300-500kcals a day. about 1-2 stone solid i would say, at least! to gain 2 stone of solid muscle would take 1 year at best and a good deal of that wold be bulking, defeating the object], i would say that he is better off training as efficently as possible than trying to gain tons of muscle "just" to burn fat. also, 300kcals is like, a pint of milk, or half a snickers bar or not very much. point is, gaining that much muscle, just to shed a few extra kcals a day just aint worth the effort when you consider that 10mins moderate activity each day would do the same.
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    RE: calories burned during cardio 2004/01/22 19:00:45 (permalink)
    quote:
    I believe adding significant muscle mass is the best long term answer to getting and staying lean....



    and i belive you are wrong on this one, doing sufficent aerobic training is a much easier way, and will take less time. lastly, has anyone considered that this guy might not want to get any bigger???
    rob
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