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2015/01/16 14:50:56 (permalink)
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chicken portions variation in macros

Hey, 

so I only noticed this today when I was cooking up some chicken.. thighs and drumsticks to be exact.
I use Fitday to log food... after adding a small drumstick and a medium thigh, the macros were much lower than the macros from the actual packaging of the meat.

I am talking mainly about protein, as I wasn't eating the skins (the macros on the packaging is with skin on).
180g regarding the packaging - 40 protein
1 thigh + 1 drumstick (again around 180g) - 28 protein. 

Now this is a huge difference.. I don't know which one to use. 

In these kind of situations, do you go by weight or by portions ?
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 08:52:57 (permalink)
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One was probably a raw macro and the other a cooked macro?
 
Did the packaging say cooked chicken? they often do when giving a portion size.
per 100g often is raw state.
 
I would normally say raw chicken is about 18-22g protein per 100g.
 
Cooked chicken is about 26 to 32g protein per 100g.
Cooked chicken can vary depending how much moisture / fat you loose on cooking.
post edited by stephen77 - 2015/01/17 08:55:22
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 08:52:57 (permalink)
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 09:59:42 (permalink)
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The pack will often refer to the edible portion, in this case 180g of actual meat.  '1 drumstick and 1 thigh' on Fitday would include the bones.
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 10:00:49 (permalink)
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stephen77  

That was exactly my thinking behind it.
 
The packaging stated as cooked, so that's how I weighed it.
But regardless of that, I am not sure if it's better to weigh this type of meat (because of the skin and bones it's quite inaccurate) or go by the presets on the tracking sites. But even then, there's is a great variance in the 'portion' size
Roasted thigh (skin and bones removed) on Calorieking - 30g protein
Roasted medium thigh on FitDay - 17g protein (which I find very low).
 
But when I compare gram to gram between the two, they seem to be the same.
 
So I guess the most accurate way would be to get rid of the bones and weigh just the roasted meat.. but that's just unnatural and too much work. I always eat it straight from the bone (I guess everybody does). I also eat the skin or not, according to how much fat I can 'afford' to fit in my daily macros.
 
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 10:03:45 (permalink)
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The pack will often refer to the edible portion, in this case 180g of actual meat.  '1 drumstick and 1 thigh' on Fitday would include the bones.


Chicken, thigh, roasted, broiled, or baked, skin not eaten
Unit: medium thigh (yield after cooking, bone and skin removed) 
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 10:06:31 (permalink)
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Yes, but your unit of measure is still 1 medium thigh.  One thigh and one drumstick will not give you 180g of meat.
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 10:25:15 (permalink)
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alright, that makes sense. 
So your recommendation would be to go by the portion sizes on FitDay (or whatever) ?
Or in case you track macros (and don't eat just chicken breast :D) how do you go about it?
 
Yesterday I ate 1 thigh and 2 drumsticks which ended up being only 36 protein regarding FitDay.
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 10:39:43 (permalink)
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Yeah, that protein sounds about right to me.
 
 
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/17 21:47:25 (permalink)
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Nutritional results can vary.
 
The ones on the pack will have been taken most likely from 3 different thighs on 3 different days if your buying it from a supermarket.   Then the average used of those 3 results.
Then they will have a verification nutritional taken through out the year to make sure it has not changed to much.
 
Chicken thighs will vary in fat and protein. I may get the chicken with Dorian Yates genetics and you may get the chicken with Eric Pickles genetics.
 
Not sure how the ones on the website come up with the data.
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Re: chicken portions variation in macros 2015/01/19 11:34:32 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Randall 2015/01/19 12:50:25
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Nutritional results can vary.
 
The ones on the pack will have been taken most likely from 3 different thighs on 3 different days if your buying it from a supermarket.   Then the average used of those 3 results.
Then they will have a verification nutritional taken through out the year to make sure it has not changed to much.
 
Chicken thighs will vary in fat and protein. I may get the chicken with Dorian Yates genetics and you may get the chicken with Eric Pickles genetics.
 
Not sure how the ones on the website come up with the data.


Yes I concur: there is quite some variance between different chickens in their protein content.
I have seen anything from 21 % to 32 % in chicken breasts. So the same will apply for other portions of the chicken. 

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