cycle completed! + PICTURE!!!!

looks good - keep us posted

enlighten me on the nicholls approach? thats anew one to me
was just going to do shot immediately after workout with 100g maltodextrin(reardless of iu of slin, max 10iu) with 100g whey powder. and yes i think its humalog-r. peak 20min-90min after shot? simple carbs on hand anyway

cheers Big Les il try and find something aswell!

week 1 update

weight increase is 8lbs so far! no visible water increase, no back pain, or painful shins

i was a bit hesitant about this bit to whether it would work but il say anyway.

its PB inspired, and from this experience it works.
18 before starting a cycle, overtrain yourself systematically. start a 3-day-split routine(over three days), then have 3 days off. then 3 days training then 1 day off, then upper body 2 days, lower body 2 days, then whole body for 2 days at high volume until absolute failure.

you have systematically overtrained yourself, restrict carbs on day 10 and cut supplements (creatine/whey etc) its daunting and it feels horrible, then have 2 rest days, return everything to normal and try not to do anything on those days (complete rest).

then start the androgen load. i look fuller than i ever have, stomach bit flatter (but that could be from chest looking better.

appetite is better, though i have had the squits for 2 days, shall document strength increases as and when they come.

bring it on, chest tonight

cant afford the ravager, wish i could, its much nicer.

Okay this is what I have found on insulin use.

either 10iu am, 10iu postworkout and 10iu pm on back and leg day - monday and thursday.
Or the same schedule with 8iu.
To be dosed with Humalin-R.
i would guess that this is being combined with at least 6iu of GH, but probably more like8/9iu of gh, with 75mcg of T3 for full effect.

How does that sound to you?

Big Les

Pete - not bad
Personally I prefer Chad's approach but as I havent tried it I cant really comment. The only drawback with what you do is a possible problem with resistance, and apparently water retention come contest time, also insulin is the reason for pregnant bloated belly syndrome because it plays havoc with the carb up process when you have run it every day, as you have to cut the slin when you want rid of the water.

Again I havent applied this. Personally I am leaving slin use until I am knocking on the door of my pro card.

Big Les

weeks 2 update

what a cracker!

10lbs gain so far, this is now the heaviest ive ever been. no water retention pains still though my upper/middle back does ache if i stand around for to long, i can only put it down to being pumped up. either way its tolerable.

psycologically i am stronger, i hope to prove that this week. i am training with a 310lb strongman/BBer tonight and for the rest of the week, he says i train like a pansy so hes goin to 'show me right'

diet has been good so far
sample, this isnt every day by any means
(7.30 50g whey
7.45 100ishg porridge oats with 3/4pt milk
8.30 3 egg on 2 brown toast)
i class that as breakfast

10.30 burger + 40g whey + amino acid caps

12.30 ......chicken and rice (sweet+sour/curry/chilli) it varies + protein bar

3pm burger + protein bar + 20g whey + amino acid caps

5pm beef based meal (small) + 20g whey + 100g maltodextrin for pre training

5.45pm training (30g dextrose, 10g whey, 5g creatine)

6.30 100g whey

7.30 solid meal, something mum cooks[:p]

9.30 whey before bed + aminos

pre-mixed shakes are always on-hand throughout the night on my bedside cabinet

thats a workout day,
475g protein
450g carbs
125g fats
4700cals, and to be honest if i didnt have that much supplementation i wouldnt be able to get my fill of food.

as i say thats about average (ish) for a day some more some less, non training days i miss 100g whey and 100ish g carbs which balances out with my target cals nicely

il post tomorrow when i get time, boss wants the PC now.

il let you know if i have strength increases from new training partner this will be hard................

TBC

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Originally posted by big pete

in that case i shall try your apporach. i dont like water retention at the best of times. and belly is bloated enough from the food im consuming!

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I will be very interested in seeing how this goes- I will be picking your brains on this one - as my knowldege is entirely theoretical and based on picking through chad and tom's snippets of info it will be very instructional indeed. oh [lus a tinsy winsy bit of research too.b

Partciularly interested in how the 3 doses a day are handled blood sugar / carb intake wise.

big les

It looks to be going well Pete. I really must investigate this heptylate, everyone loves the stuff.

I was reading on the bio website - you are N/U over there, training with Gary - am I right?

What's with the burgers? You near a Burger King or something - lol!

rite, hot hot hot workout lastnight. tri's bi's calves
30x 30kg skullcrushers warmup
triple drop 50kgx6, 40kgx6, 30kgx6
30x30lbs overhead tricep extensions (each arm)
lying tricep extensions(across the body, each arm) triple drop
6x30lbs, 6x25lbs, 6x20lbs had to use other hand to help! and when i held my hand up for the last changeover of dumbells i couldnt hold it up to recieve the 20lbs bell! hard! very hard.
reverse grip cable pulldowns triple drop (each arm)
30lbx6
20lbx8
10lbx15
bi's
seated barbell curls
10xjust bar
35x30kg (weights including bar)
triple drop 50kgx5, 40kgx5, 30kgx2(couldnt do it) barx9
calves
2 warmup sets on lying leg press with the balls of feet on edge
30x250kg
3 sets of 15x250kg (if you are still able to then others will push on your shoulders till failure

done! hard again, but tolerable, had nice speckely stars in my eyes when doin bi's!
staring to notice a bit of belly fat coming so il up my cardio to once a week and drop carbs a smidge, and see how it goes. weight is rising to dramatically and it cant all be muscle im 241lb now.