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2014/11/27 14:43:09 (permalink)

cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed

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due to organisation of my life etc, time is of the essence, I want to bulk up on next cycle but I only have 17 weeks to play with in total including pct, as I want to come off and then go back on after being off for a safe period for next year.
 
Want to start my next cycle on 1st of jan 2015, Ideally want to bulk and was thinking between , test e , sus, deca , npp , dbol , anadrol,
 
was thinking to do deca but I would need to come off after week 11 on deca, and week 12 on test e or sustanon, and then complete 4 week pct.
 
then was thinking of test e and npp, but test e again will take few weeks to kick in so cant start npp until week 3, but could run test e upto week 11 and npp until week 12?
 
ive also seen blends of npp and test pp, which both can have half life of 3 days and would be ideal I guess, but has anyone used these blends? I saw one from appollo labs?
 
ive never ran test propionate either?
 
any other ideas ?
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/27 15:56:28 (permalink)
Test E & Tren Ace?....let the Tren do the work 

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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/27 16:17:22 (permalink)
hell na bro lol, ive had 3 cycles with tren e and all three have been with disgusting side effects lol, even with high test low tren and low test and high tren, even as low as 150mg test pw to 400mg tren made my life hell, never again lol
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/27 16:30:38 (permalink)
Sorry to here that....Tren ya gotta  it 

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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/27 16:43:25 (permalink)
I wish that was the case bro lol, but me and tren are not a match made in heaven, mind you I only used rohm lab tren, could be I don't get along with their tren
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/27 18:07:06 (permalink)
well if you're using sustanon this has test prop in it as well as test enan and test depot so it's time released and could be used with npp at the start while the deca levels build up 
 
so week 1-12 500mg sust ew
week 1-11 400mg deca ew
week 1-3 300-400mg npp ew
 
or 
week 1-12 500mg test e ew
week 1-11 400mg deca ew
week 1-3 test prop + npp blend
 
btw you can also get a test e + deca blend from precision called nandrotest so the test + deca shot would only be 1ml and not the 2ml you'd need if you were using individual vials. with would help as otherwise you'd be injecting 10ml ew for the first 3 weeks but using blends that would be just 5ml which is a bit more easily dispersed.
 
bang the orals in where you normally would obviously
 
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/28 20:19:33 (permalink)
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well if you're using sustanon this has test prop in it as well as test enan and test depot so it's time released and could be used with npp at the start while the deca levels build up 
 
so week 1-12 500mg sust ew
week 1-11 400mg deca ew
week 1-3 300-400mg npp ew
 
or 
week 1-12 500mg test e ew
week 1-11 400mg deca ew
week 1-3 test prop + npp blend
 
btw you can also get a test e + deca blend from precision called nandrotest so the test + deca shot would only be 1ml and not the 2ml you'd need if you were using individual vials. with would help as otherwise you'd be injecting 10ml ew for the first 3 weeks but using blends that would be just 5ml which is a bit more easily dispersed.
 
bang the orals in where you normally would obviously
 
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hey ninja,
 
second looks good, but only problem in my eyes is deca will stable at week 5 or 6, if I finish deca at week 11 im only on it for 5 weeks on peak levels, where as if I run npp all the way through ill peak npp around week 3 to 4 all the way to week 11?
 
or am I talking nonsense, lol I just want to make the most out of the cycle
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/28 23:27:38 (permalink)
actually you'll peak the npp after about 10 days just the same as you would with test prop but yeah you could run that right the way thru to the end. lots of injections tho but again you could likely get a fast acting test prop + npp blend so reduce the amount of oil injected - would cut costs too
 
i'd maybe consider doing 1ml of test e + deca blend per week to keep a baseline for 10 week - it's only 1 vial of the blend so pretty cheap
 
then you could do  the test prop and npp and if you skip an injection for wahtever reason you're not feeling the drop in levels quite so much as the long estered gear is there in the background. 
 
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/28 23:28:22 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby mista_khan 2014/11/30 18:43:05
just a thought as on a 12 week cycle doing eod injections, life will occasionally get in the way of your planned shot
 
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/11/30 18:42:56 (permalink)
voodoo ninja
just a thought as on a 12 week cycle doing eod injections, life will occasionally get in the way of your planned shot
 
ninja
 


hey man
 
I think I agree with you, so I think ill go with following-
test p week 1-3 100mg eod
npp week 1-3 75mg eod
deca week 1 to 10 500mg per week
test e week 1-3 500mg per week
week 4 to 11 750mg
 
pct start week 13
 
I have never tried sustanon before so shall is stick to test e or try sustanon ?
and its okay to keep test e at 500mg pw until week 4 and then bump it to 750mg pw when it starts peaking?
 
and thinking ive got some dbol left over from before can use 20mg per day for first 12 days?
 
 
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/12/03 17:10:12 (permalink)
whats the maximum ml of gear you can inject in your quads, and in your front or side delts at one time?
 
btw anyone tried superdrol oral? how does it compare to dbol, tbol etc?
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/12/03 19:29:12 (permalink)
Depends on muscle size...for me 1ml delts, 3ml quads

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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/12/03 22:27:24 (permalink)
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Depends on muscle size...for me 1ml delts, 3ml quads


that's what I was thinking, so as ill be using quads and shoulders for first 3 weeks, I can inject 3ml into quads tops and 1ml into quads,
 
so 2 x injections for quads of 1ml deca , 1ml test e and 0.5ml of test p and 0.5ml npp
2 x injections for shoulders 0.5ml of test p and 0.5ml of npp
 
and in terms of pct, after coming off deca and 2 weeks after coming off test e  I can run my standard pct regime which is
 
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50
daa 3mg per day for first 14 to 21 days of pct
 
hcg ill be banging 2 x 250iu pw from week 3 and blast it before pct
arimidex 0.5mg EOD to control any water and bloat
 
also hawthorne berry, garlic tabs for bp control to start 2 weeks before starting cycle.
 
does all this make sense?
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/12/04 02:03:58 (permalink)
re test v sust - just get what is cheapest mate as gains will be very similar - although timing to pct for test e is 2 weeks and sust is 3 week.
 
as of volume injected per muscle. varies man. i can bang 2ml into my pec and be fine. 4ml in my glute is again fine but hell even 0.5ml in my quad and i'm crippled for a fecking week. delts and tri's 2ml. bi's never went above 1ml
 
never used superdrol - i get a ridiculous amount of water bloat off oxy's so would personally avoid it like the plague.
 
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/12/04 02:04:39 (permalink)
our standard pct looks fine to me
 
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/12/04 22:41:19 (permalink)
thanks a lot ninja, you been very helpful, think im set for this cycle,
 
quick question, when you inject your delts, what size needle you use and do you inject front delts or side delts?
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/12/04 23:24:59 (permalink)
i can only inject front delt mate and use a 23g 1"
much prefer my pec tho as you can do 2 handed and bang 2ml in there no problem
 
one thing with the delt shot - sometimes i get a wee tingle in the fingers of the arm who's delt i'm injecting. never comes to anything but feels a bit odd the first few times it happens. 
 
anyway happy to help man, that's why we're all here!
 
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Re: cycle ideas , have limited time to play with, some help needed 2014/12/07 22:54:10 (permalink)
that's big lol, I use 25g 0.5 on side delts, never tried front delts, scared of hitting the bone lool
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