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2009/07/19 10:02:53 (permalink)

cycle length and dosage

Guys, I am going back on for a lean bulk in a few weeks. I have done 4 or 5 previous cycles from 5 weeks (mast prop) to 25 weeks (various test)

Whats the general opinion on cycle length..

I am considering a lowish dose like 250 test e/w for 20 weeks or 500mg test 10-12 weeks.  I've read some conflicting info with regards to what is best, the 20 weeker should yeild long term gains and alows me to see a difference over a longer term arguably more keepable gains as the body gets used to the extrra muscle - whilst running a low dose there should be less sides however the negative is that I am shut down longer.

I am currently 14 stone 11 lbs (been cutting naturally for 7 weeks and dropped from 15 stone 9lbs so far) I am now feeling like I am losing muscle on this cut. I am 13 % bf according to the calipers I use and the 5 site test etc.

I have lost a noticeiable amount of fat however after losing an inch from either arm that has virtually no fat on thm I am worried about the catabolic effect of the diet, perhaps I haven't got the balance right etc.

So I guess I am using the test to hold on to/ slowly build muscle, whilst chagin my diet to a more carb cycling one (I buoght HIPACC to try) which means that there are days when I am in deficit due to diet and cardio, and on training days I am on surplus to help promote some growth.

Any opinions on the way to go, or infact if I should be trying a different med?

cheers as always in adavance

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Bench: 165Kg 1RM
Squat: 190Kg 1RM
Deadlift: 220kg 1RM
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    Blue_Lagoon3000
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    Re:cycle length and dosage 2009/07/19 10:22:26 (permalink)
    Ive tried all different types of cycles with different legnths ive just come off a 6 month one and wouldnt advise a cycle of that legnth as your gains slow massively and it woulld be better to use the time recovering.

    Id say 12 weekers are perfect a good one to try would be:

    500mg Test E pw
    400mg Mast E pw

    The Mast really hardens up the gains from the Test and also works as a mild anti oestrogen.
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    Re:cycle length and dosage 2009/07/19 10:34:16 (permalink)
    Personally Ive found short cycles work best for me. I prefer short acting gear for 6-8 weeks at a time. After that (for me) gains slow and sides multiply.

    In your position Id cut HARD on AAS and maybe a little T3 for 6 weeks, and then go back to maintenance calories for pct, cut gently for a month or so after, then cycle again and so on, until reaching goal.

    Best cutting meds IMO - propr/tren/winny


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    Re:cycle length and dosage 2009/07/19 11:56:42 (permalink)
    tac

    Personally Ive found short cycles work best for me. I prefer short acting gear for 6-8 weeks at a time. After that (for me) gains slow and sides multiply.

    In your position Id cut HARD on AAS and maybe a little T3 for 6 weeks, and then go back to maintenance calories for pct, cut gently for a month or so after, then cycle again and so on, until reaching goal.

    Best cutting meds IMO - propr/tren/winny


    i might go down the mast/winny/t3 route as i tried a prop tren mast mix from a well known ug lab and didn't lke the eod jabs -- also got tren cough on the last jab which was scary :(

    btw, how can u avoid tren cough?

    Stats:

    Bench: 165Kg 1RM
    Squat: 190Kg 1RM
    Deadlift: 220kg 1RM
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