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2009/07/31 19:40:23 (permalink)
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dana's press conference

no fedor due to m1 wanting co promotion
http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/mmaufcnews/article1007150.shtml
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/07/31 20:09:46 (permalink)
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    That's a real shame for Fedors legacy.

    He's probably the best heavyweight in the world, but until he fights the best in the UFC we'll never truly know.
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/07/31 22:55:26 (permalink)
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    That's a real shame for Fedors legacy.

    He's probably the best heavyweight in the world, but until he fights the best in the UFC we'll never truly know.





    Who in the UFC does he need to beat to be recognised then? The UFC does not have the best heavyweights in the world. Dont believe Dana Whites hype, the one reason they have tried so hard to sign him is because until THEIR fighters go against Fedor THEY will never be regarded as the best in the world.
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/07/31 23:07:59 (permalink)
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    The next question is, what other promotion will co-promote? Strikeforce? Bellator? Can't think of any others big enough tbh!

    My money is on him going back to Japan though, Dream or Sengoku.
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 00:43:50 (permalink)
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    Bookerman

    That's a real shame for Fedors legacy.

    He's probably the best heavyweight in the world, but until he fights the best in the UFC we'll never truly know.





    Who in the UFC does he need to beat to be recognised then? The UFC does not have the best heavyweights in the world. Dont believe Dana Whites hype, the one reason they have tried so hard to sign him is because until THEIR fighters go against Fedor THEY will never be regarded as the best in the world.


    Who has he faced in the last few years who can compare with the likes of Mir, Couture, Lesnar, Kongo, Velasquez or Carwin?

    Fedor could beat them all, but I think everyone of them would make for the toughest fight he's had in at least five years. They'd certainly all be much tougher tests than the likes of Hong Man Choi, Tim Sylvia or the very skillful but glassjawed Arlovski.

    If the UFC don't have the best heavyweights in the world (apart from Fedor) then who does? Outside of the UFC only Roy Nelson, Brett Rogers, Overeem, and perhaps our own Rob Broughton stand out in my opinion.

    I'm a Fedor fanboy through and through, but he can't lay claim to being the best until he faces the best challengers out there. There will always be that question mark until he faces the best the UFC have to offer. As much as I admire him, I am slowly beginning to find myself questioning his greatness.


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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 01:13:46 (permalink)
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    Who has he faced in the last few years who can compare with the likes of Mir, Couture, Lesnar, Kongo, Velasquez or Carwin?

    Fedor could beat them all, but I think everyone of them would make for the toughest fight he's had in at least five years. They'd certainly all be much tougher tests than the likes of Hong Man Choi, Tim Sylvia or the very skillful but glassjawed Arlovski.

    If the UFC don't have the best heavyweights in the world (apart from Fedor) then who does? Outside of the UFC only Roy Nelson, Brett Rogers, Overeem, and perhaps our own Rob Broughton stand out in my opinion.

    I'm a Fedor fanboy through and through, but he can't lay claim to being the best until he faces the best challengers out there. There will always be that question mark until he faces the best the UFC have to offer. As much as I admire him, I am slowly beginning to find myself questioning his greatness.


    Lesnar possibly the rest I dont think so. Who has Frank Mir beat apart from a Nog who resembled a 70 year man that night, and what some might describe as a cheap mistake from Lesnar? Randy couldn't finish Sylvia over 5 rounds, Fedor beat him in 36 seconds. Kongo was pathetic on the ground against Velasquez and Velasquez was less than impressive in failing to put Kongo away even though he was hyped as a ground and pound monster. Carwin?
    Fedor and Barnett(even though now banned) are the best heavyweights, Arlovski, Brett Rogers, Overeem, Yvel. Point being why does he need to be in the UFC to be the best heavyweight? They have no better fighters than other organizations.
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 01:17:28 (permalink)
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    I have to agree, apart from Lesnar there isn't really much in the UFC is there?

    The heavyweight division is just a bit weak I think regardless.
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 01:49:23 (permalink)
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    Nah I think Mir, Couture and possibly even Velasquez would all give Fedor a tougher test than Lesnar. I know that Lesnar has beaten Mir and Couture, but I just think Lesnar is too one dimensional and Fedor would KO him or get a choke on him pretty quick imo.

    Couture vs Fedor is still the one I want to see. Randy would come in with an awesome gameplan and stick to it. It'd be fascinating to watch.

    Velasquez is no joke. He should have perhaps done more to finish Kongo, but that was just as much down to an incredible display of toughness from Kongo than any real failing on Velasquez part.

    Velasquez has shown me some of the best wrestling I've ever seen in MMA. He really is something different. Only Matt Hughes in his prime has used Greco-Roman techiques more effectively in an MMA context as Velasquez does.

    I still say that for all their collective failings and weaknessess any of the current crop of top heavyweights in the UFC would give Fedor the hardest fight he's had in years.

    I'd dearly love to be proved wrong but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 01:55:24 (permalink)
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    Yeah Randy vs Fedor would be good however I think Randy will be long retired before Fedor gets to the UFC. The Fedor vs Barnett is the biggest fight in the heavyweight division at the moment IMO and I would not be surprised to see this happen shortly in Japan.
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 02:02:17 (permalink)
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    I hope so. Barnett was the only real test that Affliction had for Fedor.

    Barnett would certainly have been the toughest test Fedor had for years. It would answer a great many questions about how good Fedor really is.
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 09:23:08 (permalink)
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    I love fedor but in a few years he will regret not having a few fights in the UFC - all this faffing about , are none of them rich enough !?

    good heavyweights are thin on the ground and the UFC's stable is no different, which is why fedor could waltz in and clean up and nob off happy as a pig in ****

     
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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 09:44:51 (permalink)
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    fedor isnt gonna be able to go to dream either because there is no way they will do co-promotions either!


    the heavyweight division is pretty ****, always has been and prob always will be! i dont get the barnett bandwagon, his fight against yvil was shockingly bad IMO he looked aweful and fedor would have no problems beating him. actually alot of heavyweights could easy beat him judging on that performance!

    fedor has shot himself in the foot IMO, alot of people see this co-promotion thing as a way out of fighting people who could beat him. every mma fan in the world knows there is no way ever ever ever the ufc will co-promote



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    Re:dana's press conference 2009/08/01 10:10:18 (permalink)
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    fedor isnt gonna be able to go to dream either because there is no way they will do co-promotions either!


    the heavyweight division is pretty ****, always has been and prob always will be! i dont get the barnett bandwagon, his fight against yvil was shockingly bad IMO he looked aweful and fedor would have no problems beating him. actually alot of heavyweights could easy beat him judging on that performance!

    fedor has shot himself in the foot IMO, alot of people see this co-promotion thing as a way out of fighting people who could beat him. every mma fan in the world knows there is no way ever ever ever the ufc will co-promote


    From what I remember of Barnetts performance that night he did struggle but did he not show a good ground game when he finished it? Also I'm not sure of the details here but did Affliction co-promote to have Fedor on their shows?
    Everyone is blaming Fedor but he is under contract with M1 for 3 more fights and from what I've heard before he does not have alot of say in where he goes.
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