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do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned???

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as a child my mother would always be concerned at my watching violent films. i still watched them, although i expect i was far more sheltered than others. my mum would always say how violent the world was, everyone getting wayyyy too drunk, watching violent programs on TV & computer games and copying what they see.

i always insisted that it has made no difference, but if im honest with myself i think it does in general. it desensitised you to real world violence, which is why school kids enjoy watching others fight, and lads are all up for a fight on a saturday night out. there are, of course, exceptions (i enjoy action films but am completely not violent!) but i do feel that there is a strong correlation between violence on TV & computer games & violence in the real world!!!!!

i also feel the above problems are due to excessive alcohol use/abuse. most ppl become violent & agressive when drunk, v confident and short tempered. if alcohol was made illegal, impossible to acquire in the country (or at the least low % alcohol only, 3% or less.)

does anyone feel the above would be partilly solved by banning alcohol? a theoretical thougth of course as it would never be practical to implement, the country would run riot, but i still think it would be a good idea in theory! the good who enjoy alcohol would suffer, but then again the good are already suffering from drunks (see below)

other benefits would be reduced strain on healthcare facilities (violent acctacks from alcohol + health probs in later life) and police would have a much easier time on a sat night!


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    Knighty
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:00:42 (permalink)
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    If that's the case, they should also ban human contact as it is potentially volatile

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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:02:13 (permalink)
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    certainly not basically, even if they do make people violent I don't want my fun ruined by some tw@ts
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:02:54 (permalink)
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    how am i supposed to get laid if they ban alcohol lol
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:03:06 (permalink)
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    Knighty hit the nail right on the head there and killed your thread in an instant lol

    It's all about the potential to cause harm, mass murderers in the 50's never had crazy computer games and horrible films influencing them there are a lot more factors involved.

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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:03:35 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Knighty

    If that's the case, they should also ban human contact as it is potentially volatile



    are u saying that the presence of 2 ppl in eye contact of eachother increases the chance of a fight?! if so i guess thats kinda true, but a little synicle and a rather poor argument. through human contact we learn to become more acceping of others, theuir views, opinions & lifestyles. most human beings require other human contact, hence why isolation in prison is so horrible.
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:04:24 (permalink)
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    People have been getting high/intoxicated for thousands of years. If you ban alcohol people will simply find other ways of escaping reality. Then, there may be real consequences.

    As for violent video games. They're the only thing that keeps me sane. If it wasn't for violent video games I'd be forced to buy a gun and shot people in the street

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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:05:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Mook

    Knighty hit the nail right on the head there and killed your thread in an instant lol

    It's all about the potential to cause harm, mass murderers in the 50's never had crazy computer games and horrible films influencing them there are a lot more factors involved.




    yes, of course, but you must look at the whole picture. there are exceptions to any rule/correlation, but the level of violence in our culture has elcaladed way byond that in the 50s.

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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:05:52 (permalink)
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    No. It is not the seeing of violence on films or games that will make you a violent person. It is the mentality of the person that will bring them to kill someone. Not the effect a game will supposedly have on them. I've seen plenty of violent films, gore and played plenty of violent games and I consider myself to be a well decent guy that can talk in a situation instead of going straight to violence.
    post edited by lilbigman - 2006/07/16 18:08:22

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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:06:58 (permalink)
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    No for neither.

    But if a game is an 18, it should be sold to 18's, same with Alki.
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:07:47 (permalink)
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    people kill for money,love,drugs so why the hell does a computer game get blamed for it

    a computer game like manhunt doesnt make me want to go around slicing people up
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:08:19 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: tuffnutt

    People have been getting high/intoxicated for thousands of years. If you ban alcohol people will simply find other ways of escaping reality. Then, there may be real consequences.

    As for violent video games. They're the only thing that keeps me sane. If it wasn't for violent video games I'd be forced to buy a gun and shot people in the street


    your first paragraph is a fair one, and i agree that the modern preassures- financial and otherwise are greater than they used to be, stress levels are higher and ppl need a way of relaxing, but personally i find the whole "work all day, save up your £5 per hour wage so you can blow it all on a fri & sat night, then go back to work on monday" cycle very sad indeed.
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:09:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: cu3ed

    No for neither.

    But if a game is an 18, it should be sold to 18's, same with Alki.


    BB guns are also sold to over 18's and the over 18's find a way of converting them to fire real bullets.

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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:10:54 (permalink)
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    it's in our nature to kill, alcohol or video games play a very little part in harming others


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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:12:07 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: davedarave01uk

    people kill for money,love,drugs so why the hell does a computer game get blamed for it

    a computer game like manhunt doesnt make me want to go around slicing people up


    ORIGINAL: lilbigman

    No. It is not the seeing of violence on films or games that will make you a violent person. It is the mentality of the person that will bring them to kill someone. Not the effect a game will supposedly have on them. I've seen plenty of violent films, gore and played plenty of violent games and I consider myself to be a well decent guy that can talk in a situation instead of going straight to violence.


    i used to agree with you, i have played violent games, watched films etc, as i said at the start. i am not in the least bit violent. there will always be exceptions to the rule.

    however with younger & younger ppl playing such games, minds which are not yet fully developed, they will find it ever increaingly difficult to distinguish right from wrong, especially when intoxicated at the age of 14 or whatever,

    i agree that stricter age limits would help, but this is still vvv difficult to implement, and a violent 18 yr old is worse than a violent 15yr old.

    it is simple nature vs background, and i think most experts agree that a combination of the 2 contribute to our personalities
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:12:46 (permalink)
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    Do you mean replicas? i have a few bb guns, their aint no way they could ever fire a real bullet.
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    ORIGINAL: cu3ed

    No for neither.

    But if a game is an 18, it should be sold to 18's, same with Alki.


    BB guns are also sold to over 18's and the over 18's find a way of converting them to fire real bullets.

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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:14:45 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: lilbigman

    ORIGINAL: cu3ed

    No for neither.

    But if a game is an 18, it should be sold to 18's, same with Alki.


    BB guns are also sold to over 18's and the over 18's find a way of converting them to fire real bullets.


    You CANNOT convert a BB gun to fire real bullets. You might as well build a gun from scratch. A de-activated gun....yes, that's certainly possible.

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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:15:16 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: russcantdance

    Freak_in_cage it is easy to blame violent fims/games/alcohol for the woes of society, but how about we start taking a little responsibilty for our own actions?


    i agree with that m8- ppl should take responsibility, but this is often v difficult to prove in court etc etc.

    ORIGINAL: Knighty

    it's in our nature to kill, alcohol or video games play a very little part in harming others



    dude thats such a poor argument. our nature to kill is usually only "accessed" in a live or die situation, and i feel games & alcohol cloud the boundry between reality & fake, life & death
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    RE: do u think alcohol & violent video games should be banned??? 2006/07/16 18:15:59 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: cu3ed

    Do you mean replicas? i have a few bb guns, their aint no way they could ever fire a real bullet.
    ORIGINAL: lilbigman

    ORIGINAL: cu3ed

    No for neither.

    But if a game is an 18, it should be sold to 18's, same with Alki.


    BB guns are also sold to over 18's and the over 18's find a way of converting them to fire real bullets.




    he must do m8
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    ORIGINAL: cu3ed

    Do you mean replicas? i have a few bb guns, their aint no way they could ever fire a real bullet.
    ORIGINAL: lilbigman

    ORIGINAL: cu3ed

    No for neither.

    But if a game is an 18, it should be sold to 18's, same with Alki.


    BB guns are also sold to over 18's and the over 18's find a way of converting them to fire real bullets.




    Ahh yes, that's what I meant.

    So what do you think drives a guy in his thirties to threaten a 16year old(mashed out their face and can barely see) from 5 meters away? Films? Alcohol? Games? No. The simple reason that he can get away with it and because he's a tosser with a very poor mentality as to say something to someone that is temporarily incapable of battering him.

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