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2005/08/04 10:27:21 (permalink)
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does this look ok for first cycle

right i am considering doing this cycle for 10 to 12 weeks, ive been told that on my first cycle its possible to put on about 25lbs, anyway this is what has been suggested to me.

test enanthate for about 10 weeks at 400mg a week, nolva for pct.
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    lilguy43
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 10:41:51 (permalink)
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    400mg how are you going to do that? isn't 500mg more common? and easier to measure out?=two amps
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 10:44:11 (permalink)
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    fine mate good cycle, i would advise getting some clomid for PCT as well but thats a personal preference and bit of extra piece of mind!
    You could either frontload the test in the 1st week (double dose) or run a dbol kickstart for 4 weeks @ 30mg as well.

    what test are you using, as most are 250mg/ml so you would shoot twice a week making 500mg per week.....unless of course you are using a 200mg/ml brand?
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 10:45:14 (permalink)
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    is 500mg a week a high dosage for a first cycle, and am i realy looking at gains of up to 25lbs on a first cycle? cheers for any help.
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 12:49:54 (permalink)
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    500mg is OK mate for a first cycle. Some people do go for 250mg p/w, but if you're going to the trouble of doing something, might as well do it good! 500mg p/w, 250mg Mon - 250mg Thursday, should provide superb results!

    "Seven years ago I was an interesting person. Now I'm little more than a corpse." Mussolini, 1945

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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 12:55:07 (permalink)
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    This is the exact course I will be starting in the next couple of weeks.

    Week 1-10
    Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/pw (One Monday, One Thursday)
    Nolvadex 20 mg/Day

    Week 13-15
    Nolvadex 40mg/Day
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 12:57:20 (permalink)
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    this is my 2nd cycle and im doing 300mgs of test e every 5 days for 10 weeks

    but then again im only 19 yrs old so i dun wanna crank it

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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 12:59:10 (permalink)
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    How do you do 300mg then if they come in 250's?
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 13:31:40 (permalink)
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    j28, I wouldn't use the nolva unless you see signs of gyno bro. Just not nec. As far as shooting 300mg of test, not all test comes in ampules. Some come in 10ml vials and larger. So you could do just about any qty. you wanted.
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 14:02:22 (permalink)
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    cheers for the advice cranny.

    I had previously thought that I may suffer from slight gyno through puberty so I wanted to reduce the risk as much as possible.
    I have posted pics of this and it may just be that I hold a little fat on my chest and that my muscles dont meet in the middle very well although they are very hard hence the reason for the Nolva so early
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 14:26:32 (permalink)
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    mass, 500mg is fine for a first cycle but less is not necessarily a bad thing! 25lbs on a first cycle is achievable yes
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 14:41:54 (permalink)
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    Using Nolva for PCT, is the an average amount of that 25lbs that will be lost or does it vary significantly depending on genetics?
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 16:29:40 (permalink)
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    will vary massively, 25lbs gain will be impossible for some, and easy for others...as a rough guide you can prob. expect to keep about half that, well for me anyway!
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 16:57:55 (permalink)
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    wow thats some pretty impressive gains, im just intrested in what kind of size am i looking at at the end of the cycle,

    my current weight is 14stone2lbs

    15.5" arms

    42" chest, my aim is for 16" arms 44" chest is this acheavable on a first cycle, i no im asking for a lot here but as i have never done a cycle before i have no idea of what to expect.

    cheers for the help guys
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 17:53:55 (permalink)
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    personally i'd run 500mg ew split 250 mon and thur! kick start it with dbol also at 30mg ed! dbol is a must for bulking in my oppinion!

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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 19:52:46 (permalink)
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    theres no saying mass, you'll just have to try it and find out!

    the chest gain might be a little optimistic, but then again it might not depending on your routine, diet and rest its achievable.....0.5" gain on the biceps should be easy
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/04 23:01:50 (permalink)
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    Bumping Fina. The basics are critical. If you cannot gain training naturally, you will struggle to gain using roids as there is obviously some flaw in one or more components of diet/training/rest.

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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/05 00:30:32 (permalink)
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    So for you who have done this of other cycle at this strengh you must have mesured your selfs before and after PCT to see what you have kept rather than look just at the scales?

    How does this equate? Iv gained 1/2" naturaly on my biceps only adding 8lb in weight some of which is fat surely if you put on 25lb ya going gain more than 1/2" on your arms and most body parts?
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/05 00:33:09 (permalink)
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    How many of you that have done a cycle like this have mesured yourself after PCT?
    post edited by dannymix - 2005/08/05 00:35:12
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    RE: does this look ok for first cycle 2005/08/05 01:05:32 (permalink)
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    dannymix, bro adding an inch the the arms should be easy on first cycle, i think i added an inch and half (some water), i only ran test enanthate 500mg for 6weeks with a 3week kickstart using dbol 25mg everyday.

    deca/dbol cycle starts monday... well sunday night, fcuk me cant wait....
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