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2003/11/30 19:53:47 (permalink)

drop sets

hello all i am just about to write myself a new program and i was thinking of using drop sets for my tri's can anyone tell me what the different between the three weights should be??? for example :-
tricep pushdowns 3 drop sets of at 150k, 130k & 110 ????
What percentage should there be between the wieghts???
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/01 11:34:37 (permalink)
    You should reduce the weight just enough so that you can only just complete the rep range for the next drop. Its trial and error. I just started using drop sets and found most of my calculations were wrong for the first set (I've been used to working in the 8-10 rep range, and dropping to 6-8 reps is quite a difference). I think it takes a couple of workouts until you get it right.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/01 18:19:23 (permalink)
    I'll go along with Darcy here,very much trial and error.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/01 18:52:13 (permalink)
    One of the reasons i ask is becuase i remember reading somewhere ( dont ask me where??) that you should choose a weight that you can do just 6 reps for the first weight, then one that allows 8 reps then one that allows 10 reps . Has anybody else heard anything like this?????
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/02 22:25:53 (permalink)
    yea i have this principle too. it was something along the lines of 8 reps for the first set, 10 reps for the second and 12 for the third.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/03 00:18:32 (permalink)
    The target should be failure, I'm lost as to how the reps are important here.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/03 06:04:25 (permalink)
    Why drop sets? I have never seen any point in them... I don't really see any point in using drop sets next to just working the muscle in a normal fashion.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/03 08:15:00 (permalink)
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    Why drop sets? I have never seen any point in them... I don't really see any point in using drop sets next to just working the muscle in a normal fashion.



    In defence of drop sets they are a good way of increasing the intensity of a workout should you feel the need.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/03 08:25:33 (permalink)
    quote:
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    Why drop sets? I have never seen any point in them... I don't really see any point in using drop sets next to just working the muscle in a normal fashion.



    To be honest i just want to give my tri's a shock and i have always found that drop sets do this well

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    yea i have this principle too. it was something along the lines of 8 reps for the first set, 10 reps for the second and 12 for the third.



    Yep thats something like what i heard i am despetly trying to find out were i read about it so i can explain the reasons its sopost to be benifitial
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/03 08:31:33 (permalink)
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    Yep thats something like what i heard i am despetly trying to find out were i read about it so i can explain the reasons its sopost to be benifitial



    If you take the set to failure the muscle concerned wont argue about the number of reps it completed, like its gonna know or care. The object of triple drop is failure.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/03 10:00:00 (permalink)
    I'm doing an adaption of Tony starks routine at the mo, using pre-exhaust and triple-drop sets. All sets are always to failure. I adjust the weight so that failure usually occurs around the 40 rep mark for pre-exhaust sets and around the 6-8 rep mark for triple drop sets. If I haven't reached failure by this point I carry on until I do, and then make a note to increase the weight for the next session.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/03 12:21:10 (permalink)
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    quote:
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    Yep thats something like what i heard i am despretly trying to find out were i read about it so i can explain the reasons its sopost to be benifitial



    If you take the set to failure the muscle concerned wont argue about the number of reps it completed, like its gonna know or care. The object of triple drop is failure.



    Yes i agree i always take each set to failure ,I wasnt sure about this technique myself either and i cant remember where i read it It went something like this :- "When doing drop sets first choose a weight with which you can only manage 3-5 reps then use a weight were you can manage 6-8 reps then finally 8-10." i think it was something to do with trying to recruit all available muscle fibres ???????
    As i said im not sure myself i just wondered if anybody had heard anything about this and what peoples opinion where??????
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/04 00:13:47 (permalink)
    I beleive there are better ways to give your muscles a shock... But I guess I can't completely insult drop sets heh... They have a place in some routines I suppose.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/05 15:22:26 (permalink)
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    I beleive there are better ways to give your muscles a shock... But I guess I can't completely insult drop sets heh... They have a place in some routines I suppose.



    I've been doing them for 2 weeks and they're definitely giving my muscles a shock ! Which other methods do you prefer Genon ?
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/05 22:47:09 (permalink)
    How do you know they are giving your muscles a shock? Because you feel a pump? Depends what sort of routine your doing... If I was on a 3x8 routine or something I'd do something like prgressive singles to shock my body. I like using increased weight to shock your body instead of measuring the shock by the burn of pump.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/06 16:43:16 (permalink)
    I have experienced some of my best gains when incorporating drop-sets into my routine. They are an excellent tool in any bodybuilders arsenal and should not be dismissed so lightly without first giving them a try.

    Regarding how they should be performed, I am with Oasis 100% - failure on each and every drop should be the key. I typically select weights that allow me to complete 6-8 reps on each drop-set.
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    RE: drop sets 2003/12/08 10:37:56 (permalink)
    quote:
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    How do you know they are giving your muscles a shock? Because you feel a pump?


    Nope. Because of the pain I'm in 2 days later.
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