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2009/07/31 21:48:00 (permalink)
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fasted training

now i know loads of ppl do cardio on an empty stomach but does any one lift weights empty or weights and cardio,i know a few ppl who do and myself have in the past, a lot of folk cant eat first thing and only get that time to train,just wondered how common it is
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    markfj
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/01 01:40:25 (permalink)
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    Judging by just about everyone's diet I read, my guess is its not very common, unless you dont know a great deal about nutrition
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/01 16:57:14 (permalink)
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    If you can't eat early mate, just follow the advice given to me.

    Have a protein shake with oats and possibly a banana prior to workout.

    I have that before and a protein shake, oats, strawberries and blueberries after my morning workout.
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/01 23:39:04 (permalink)
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    more research than anything really mate but thanks for reply
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/02 14:54:37 (permalink)
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    Fasted training is just stupid. What is the point in exercising while in a catabolic state? Pointless.
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/02 15:49:40 (permalink)
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    Fasted training is just stupid. What is the point in exercising while in a catabolic state? Pointless.

    Doubtful youre in a catabolic state to muscle tissue.

    Ive done it on occasion, black coffee and a pint of water beforehand. Lifts werent the best and i warmed up for at least 15 mins on a treadmill prior to weights.

    Never had an issue as i was never glycogen depleted when i did this.
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/02 17:08:45 (permalink)
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    JK2 did this to some degree of success
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/02 18:00:37 (permalink)
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    Glycogen isn't depleted after a whole nights sleep? The body can only store so much glycogen, so it doesn't mattter how much you eat the night before glycogen is very low after 8+ hours.
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/02 18:18:26 (permalink)
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    stevescholes18

    Glycogen isn't depleted after a whole nights sleep? The body can only store so much glycogen, so it doesn't mattter how much you eat the night before glycogen is very low after 8+ hours.

    No its not.

    I have done depletion training and it takes 5-6 days of no carbs and killer depletion workouts to get depleted. If you dropped your entire glycogen store overnight YOu would be pissing like a racehorse as water would be leaving your body.

    Liver glycogen is slightly lower, thats it. Sleeping isnt glycogen intensive.
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/02 19:02:42 (permalink)
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    So if you don't burn your glycogen stores what do you burn? Fat?

    I thought glycogen was the primary fuel source, even if your sleeping/doing nothing.
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    theiopener
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/03 11:55:00 (permalink)
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    You burn a mixture of fat and glycogen, what ratios depends on your body type. Most people burn predominately fat during rest and lower HR.

    The liver has enough glycogen to fuel the brain for a good while without tapping intop muscle reserves.
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/03 12:13:35 (permalink)
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    Yeah.

    I know you burn more fat at lower HR but always thought that glycogen is still the much higher percentage.
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    Re:fasted training 2009/08/03 12:35:54 (permalink)
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    had to train fasted a few years back and had no problem with it at all,best condition i have been in while it maybe not ideal i dont believe its that harmful.
    bcaa before and after, water and eph for energy.
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