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2005/08/03 22:30:17 (permalink)
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frontloading..

Hey guys, im going to start my 2nd cycle, my budget is lower than my first so i'll just be doing 500mg test enath/ week , im going to frontload at 1000mg for the first week instead of using dbol. should i frontload 2nd week aswell? if only 1 week needed how long should i expect to wait for it to kick in in comparision to the normal 3 weeks without frontloading?

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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/03 22:51:06 (permalink)
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    I recently frontloaded 750mg of test e and then continued with 250mg Sat, Mon, Wed ie 1250mg week 1 then 750mg pw thereafter.
    I would have been on this cycle along with 400mg of deca, 3 weeks on Saturday.
    By the end of the first week i had inreased in weight by 8lbs. I am currently 10lbs heavier but only now am i really seeing any real gains in terms of strength, pump and muscle hardness.
    The initial front load increased weight gain which was obviously just water and did make my muscle seem fuller but i definately havent noticed any differance 3 weeks in when comparing to a normal stack.
    Go with the dbol imo.
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/03 23:00:55 (permalink)
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    i have to say after a few cycles frontloading with long acting esters, that it doesnt help as much as adding dbol or drol to your cycle instead in the first few weeks

    Maybe you can handle yourself one of them First Class tickets to the resurrection,So long, Mel, Have a good trip
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/03 23:17:50 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: carnage

    i have to say after a few cycles frontloading with long acting esters, that it doesnt help as much as adding dbol or drol to your cycle instead in the first few weeks


    Exactly what ive found
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 00:18:24 (permalink)
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    yah i can understand that frontloading isnt as effective as dbol or drol, which would you say produces the most water retention? i think im def gonna run 20mg/day nolvadex throughout the first 4 weeks of orals. i have done dbol before so which do you prefer drol or dbol?
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 03:39:14 (permalink)
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    there both pretty awesome, cant go wrong with either, take nolva ED, drink a shedload of water & cut back on the salts and you shouldnt bloat up

    Maybe you can handle yourself one of them First Class tickets to the resurrection,So long, Mel, Have a good trip
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 13:37:37 (permalink)
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    I don't understand why you would want to run the nolva ED. IMO you shouldn't use it unless you see signs of gyno. Drink plenty of water for the water retention.
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 19:09:57 (permalink)
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    I was thinking of running Nolva ED because i got gyno when i was at young teens (still have it), im going to just run it when my nipples start to react and then run it throughout.
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 21:26:24 (permalink)
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    What about frontloading and using dbol as a kickstart, is that ok because thats what I will be doing


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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 21:41:26 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: volatile

    What about frontloading and using dbol as a kickstart, is that ok because thats what I will be doing

    I assume youre also going to use test e from your previous posts. From experience i really dont think that frontloading this test is productive over 3 weeks when comparing to a normal dose strategy. Save yourself some dough and pins and go with the dbol or drol.
    As far as the Nolva is concerned I agree that you should have some on hand, but dont use it until you need it.
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 21:44:48 (permalink)
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    But I have **** loads of test e, its only an extra 2 amps in the first week

    And it might give me that little bit more of an edge dont you think?


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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 22:26:42 (permalink)
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    possibly, but i doubt it will do much for u

    Maybe you can handle yourself one of them First Class tickets to the resurrection,So long, Mel, Have a good trip
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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 22:47:29 (permalink)
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    I just think you'll suffer from a drop in androgen levels later in the cycle tbh. I wouldn't do it, but each to their own!

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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 22:50:08 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: PartyBoy

    I just think you'll suffer from a drop in androgen levels later in the cycle tbh. I wouldn't do it, but each to their own!


    So either frontload the test e and do test e on its own

    OR

    1 - 4 dbol 30mg ed with 500mg test e ew

    If thats the case, which one is the best?


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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 22:52:07 (permalink)
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    Impossible to answer - just personal preference.

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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 23:00:05 (permalink)
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    I think just frontloading the test e, and doing test e on its own might be more benefical for me, because it would be my first cycle, and it would help me determine if test agrees with me without dbol getting in the way and complicating things.



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    RE: frontloading.. 2005/08/04 23:08:12 (permalink)
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    If its your first cycle forget the dbol for the reasons youve given. The front loading of the test certainly wont hurt but it wont benefit you much either.
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