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2006/07/15 18:29:17 (permalink)
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gains stoped any help

hi it my first post ,
been train and using gear for about 3 years now i have done most of the basic stacks i do everythin right (i think) and have plenty of time off between courses etc , i eat clean and have plenty of protein etc etc , i train 4 times a week doin each body part but no cv ?

my prob is i have come too a flat spot i have stoped building and puttin on weight ? i cant seem too get over 15 stone for some resen even if i eat like a horse , hammer the gear and train like a mad man ?

my last course i finished was 8 weeks sus 750mg weekly / deca 600mg weekly with d-bol 70mg weekly ( hope that is explained right ) i put about 6lb on over the 8 weeks is that good or bad ?

im just comin upto startin my next course and wouldered what i can do to get over the flat spot i want to try somethin new really can anyone help ?

what does pct stand for ?

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32" waist
47"chest
17.5" arms
17"neck

not really up on all the tech talk so please go easy on me thats why im using the site and postin for your help as i want to learn and get as much info as i can so i gain and do everythin right

ben .....
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    stone14
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/15 18:34:03 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: r5ben


    my last course i finished was 8 weeks sus 750mg weekly / deca 600mg weekly with d-bol 70mg weekly ( hope that is explained right ) i put about 6lb on over the 8 weeks is that good or bad ?


    ben .....


    70mg of dbol per week? do you mean per day? if so thats quite alot of dbol, have you tried drol?

    600mg of deca per week is quite high too.

    well if your traning and diet is ok and your not growing on that aas, why not research into slin and/or igf1 and HGH?



    you might just need a lay off you may be over trained, or you may just need to change things up abit (ie training)


    post edited by stone14 - 2006/07/15 18:35:43

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/15 18:38:22 (permalink)
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    sorry i got that wrong i do 50mg a day of d-bol
    dont know about drol , slin and/or igf1 but i will look into it and i have been thinkin about hgh but it looked abit dodgie and i dont know much about it

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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/15 18:50:06 (permalink)
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    pct is post cycle therapy, the meds you run to return to normal natural test levels. youve been doing this, right?
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/15 21:29:32 (permalink)
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    50mg a day is a little much IMO. But i know plenty who take that much...
    Lack of pct might be why your gains have slowed. see my signature for proper pct;
    ORIGINAL: r5ben

    sorry i got that wrong i do 50mg a day of d-bol
    dont know about drol , slin and/or igf1 but i will look into it and i have been thinkin about hgh but it looked abit dodgie and i dont know much about it


    PCT
    Day 1 clomid 150mg, novla 60mg
    Day 2-11 clomid 100mg, novla 40mg
    Day 12-21 clomid 50mg, novla 20mg
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/15 23:06:25 (permalink)
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    yes i have been doing pct just didnt know what it ment i thought i was post cycle somethin but dint know what the last bit was
    i use novla and hcg and i find vit b6 works well with me too

    i just must need a lot of time off then ??

    say if you went on for 8 week how long would you come off for ?? the repeat 8 weeks etc

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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/15 23:32:39 (permalink)
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    time off = time on +pct.

    So if you were running a test e cycle for 10 weeks you would want 15 weeks off. 2 weeks before you begin pct, 3 weeks of pct.
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/30 19:43:54 (permalink)
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    wooooo over the 15 stone mark m8s ! first time in my life !its taken some time and hard trainin but ive got upto 15st 2lb been eatin really well and trainin really hard so next stop is 16 stone lol

    need to think about what to do next now for bulking ?? anyone ?

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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/30 22:08:23 (permalink)
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    It doesn't sound like you need to bulk to me mate. 15 stone with 17.5" arms and 47" chest, with a 32 inch waist.

    Mate that sounds like a decent sized frame to me
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/07/31 21:41:47 (permalink)
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    not happy with my shoulders and neck thow mate want the to get abit bigger really !

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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/08/01 02:25:08 (permalink)
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    R5Ben,

    I have been where you are and ended up running IGF1 and slin to overcome my hurdle. It did the trick but I would also recommend the following cycle.

    1-8 Test Prop 100mg EOD
    1-6 Tren Ace 75mg EOD
    3 days off
    PCT 3 weeks
    Run it again

    Try this series once and train heavy for 3 weeks then high reps on the 4th then repeat.

    Next Cycle
    Start on 8/21/06
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/08/01 08:27:13 (permalink)
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    are you upping your calories as you progress through the cycle
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/08/04 19:55:16 (permalink)
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    whats IGF1 ? dont know that one ?

    yes i am uping my cals mate i find it really hard to keep uping them all the time but its got to be done or i not grow !

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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/08/04 22:23:55 (permalink)
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    Try combing the 3 failly of AS. A Testosterone/DHT and 19-Nor derived AS, whilst reducing levels of SHBG in the body dramtically, freeing all available testosterone. Somehting like:

    wk 1-8 Test Prop 100mg/ED
    wk 1-6 Tren a 75mg/ED
    wk 1-8 Anavar 100mg/Ed
    wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/08/05 10:36:24 (permalink)
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    thanks for the good stacks m8s ! seems like you lot like your 8 week courses do you allways do 8 weeks then pct or do you stay on longer like 12 weeks etc sometimes ???
    do you ever do 4 weeks on 4 weeks off ? some of my mates do this and think its great !but i think it not that long and most stuff is only just startin to work then ya comin off ?

    whats your thoughts !

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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/08/06 02:25:02 (permalink)
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    It scares me that you've been running cycles for 3 years without knowing what PCT is.

    But to the point, you need to switch up your routine maybe?
    What does your diet look like?
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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/08/06 11:32:10 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Fl3h

    It scares me that you've been running cycles for 3 years without knowing what PCT is.

    But to the point, you need to switch up your routine maybe?
    What does your diet look like?



    i know what pct is mate but id not been useing the site long and all the shortened words was spining me out its alot to take in at first i just called it time off lol
    i was getting alot of differant people telling me bad info i wanted to get it spot on as my gains had stoped and i thought i maybe doing thinks wrong thats all alot of my m8s dont really come off gear and if they do its not for long prob do 12 on and 4 weeks pct then repeat and that just didnt sound right to me !
    i switch up my routine every 4 weeks or so
    as for diet it need some work at min but i do eat clean and have loads of protein a day i think i just too eat more but its hard to keep eatin when you work like i do in the day but i have been lookin on the site and sorting out a new diet and new things to eat started useing tuna and peanut butter more now lol

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    RE: gains stoped any help 2006/08/06 13:27:25 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Swifto

    Try combing the 3 failly of AS. A Testosterone/DHT and 19-Nor derived AS, whilst reducing levels of SHBG in the body dramtically, freeing all available testosterone. Somehting like:

    wk 1-8 Test Prop 100mg/ED
    wk 1-6 Tren a 75mg/ED
    wk 1-8 Anavar 100mg/Ed
    wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED


    1 week of prov for PCT ? prov shouldnt be used for pct and 1 week is not long enough
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