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2015/03/10 10:30:28 (permalink)
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giving advise??

Just wondering how much of u lot wud give advise to someone in the gym u didn't know if u saw them using bad form in the gym or wud you just look and think wtf is he doing!!!
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    hififi
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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/10 10:37:45 (permalink)
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    I've wanted to & tried on occasion but all to often not meet with thanks - find it ****ing frustrating that gym staff don't tho! Legal case waiting to happen imo in a lot of cases! xx

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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/10 11:06:47 (permalink)
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    Ha I've had the same response, I once went up to this big lad doing dumbell shrugs and the weight was to heavy he was using his legs to build momentum to lift the weight and his shoulders where only coming up a little bit then he'd push his hed down to like meet his shoulders so I told him u b better off mate using less weight so u can get a better squeezed at the top he just sed ppfffft and looked at me stupid then himself to say look at me and look at u,
    I like ur pic HIFIFI nice transformation there well done 
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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/10 11:12:33 (permalink)
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    Generally not. Only time tends to be guys I have somehow chatted to prior and need a little nudge. I would off course be polite as poss. Prob happens a couple of times a yeah.

    Quite honestly id be spending all my time correcting stuff if I didnt show restraint.
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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/10 11:16:19 (permalink)
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    I look at them but only to check I am always at a safe distance away.
     
    A number of years ago I tried to make a suggestion to someone once, they were not impressed
    and tried to come up with some crazy new training method, that clearly they were just making up
    on the spot.....
     
    Likewise I recommend steering as far away as possible from people with poor form, big weights and 
    no locking collars...once saw someone lose an olympic bar whilst doing bench press.  His arm buckled,
    the weights slid off one end, then the bar somersaulted across him....come have killed someone.  The
    little fecker didn't even pick up the weights he just puffed his chest out and left....
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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/10 11:16:22 (permalink)
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    Also remember that someone may very well know more than you and be doing something for a reason. Plus someone may be doing something that may not be optimal, but it still works so no need to listen to a stranger.

    So for loads of reasons I wouldnt bother!
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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/10 11:20:13 (permalink)
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    I will only advise if someone is about to do something very silly... Like unloading a racked and loaded bar from one side only.

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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/15 17:37:22 (permalink)
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    I would and I do
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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/15 18:19:37 (permalink)
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    I don't. Most people, IME, don't want to be criticised. Even if that criticism would help them.

    I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/16 14:06:55 (permalink)
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    Only (a) If they ask or (b) If the movement they are doing looks dangerous.
    Otherwise the numerous bone idle PT's loitering around the gym should help.
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    Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/17 02:35:13 (permalink)
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    Don't give unsolicited advice unless you're a trainer.  Even then it's not your responsibility.  People can react badly.
    Also I've had people give me crappy advice I didn't ask for before.  So unless you're an expert don't bother.
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    Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/17 02:54:36 (permalink)
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    Don't give unsolicited advice unless you're a trainer.  Even then it's not your responsibility.  People can react badly.
    Also I've had people give me crappy advice I didn't ask for before.  So unless you're an expert don't bother.

    So why do a great many people join forums like this if we cannot give them advice? So you wouldn't offer advice to a newbie just beginning his bodybuilding journey on here in case he went to the gym and dropped an oly bar on his head?
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    Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/17 05:36:47 (permalink)
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    Just mind your own business, people should live and learn.

    And as said it can easily backfire and be taken the wrong way, so just let em crack on.

    Some people have clear mental health issues, I've seen guys come in my gym for the last 5 years and do the same thing every single workout, the funniest is this skinny man who every single time comes in picks up the 22kg DBS, does one arm bicep break your back curls at a time and then leaves after a few sets, he's clearly suffering from some mental health issues, no one ever says anything and this has been on going for 6 years now, the same thing 4 or so times a week.

    I just try to ignore what's going on around me and focus on what I'm doing and speak with those worth speaking to.

    Gyms are like everyday life, you get the good, the bad, the ugly and the damn right f*cking annoying c*nts, you just learn to live with it lol.

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    Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/17 06:32:24 (permalink)
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    Don't give unsolicited advice unless you're a trainer.  Even then it's not your responsibility.  People can react badly.
    Also I've had people give me crappy advice I didn't ask for before.  So unless you're an expert don't bother.

    So why do a great many people join forums like this if we cannot give them advice? So you wouldn't offer advice to a newbie just beginning his bodybuilding journey on here in case he went to the gym and dropped an oly bar on his head?




    Well that's the difference, bro, on the forum people are asking for advice.  Unsolicited advice is where you give it without anyone asking.  As for the danger factor, yeah I guess that's an exception.  Don't want to see anyone seriously hurting themselves, but it's rare you see anyone doing anything super dangerous.
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    Re: Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/17 06:51:22 (permalink)
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    Don't give unsolicited advice unless you're a trainer.  Even then it's not your responsibility.  People can react badly.
    Also I've had people give me crappy advice I didn't ask for before.  So unless you're an expert don't bother.

    So why do a great many people join forums like this if we cannot give them advice? So you wouldn't offer advice to a newbie just beginning his bodybuilding journey on here in case he went to the gym and dropped an oly bar on his head?




    Well that's the difference, bro, on the forum people are asking for advice.  Unsolicited advice is where you give it without anyone asking.  As for the danger factor, yeah I guess that's an exception.  Don't want to see anyone seriously hurting themselves, but it's rare you see anyone doing anything super dangerous.

    Yeah I get that. I reckon if I saw soneone who appeared inexperienced getting into difficulty then I'd step in and help out. Otherwise I just get on with my training.
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    Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/17 06:51:42 (permalink)
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    I think it totally depends on your personality.  I remember back i the 90s before the internet some guy came to me at the weight room in the sports complex in manchester and asked why I was benching with such a close grip, I answered it was because I didn't know what I was doing, and he gave me some friendly pointers and I was grateful.  I'd be hesitant to do the same because I'm not really a "people person", also I am not a very convincing person.  Even in my field of expertise I can't convince laymen of the simplest things. 
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    Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/21 09:32:35 (permalink)
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    Ive never minded being given advice in the past, and if given advice now i will appreciate the offer, weigh it up and decide whether its good or bad. We do have a resident gym police enforcement officer lol, an elderly gent who attends the gym as more of a social engagement. He has no inhibitions about giving folk advice and doesnt give a f**k whether you like his advice or not, hes funny, but knows his stuff, so i tend to take on board what he has to say. He recently had a fall out with a guy bench pressing resting the bar on his palms. Now then, this had been niggling me for a while, but the guy looked like he knew what he was doing and so i just kept my nose out.
     
    I suppose i will only give advice to folk who obviously dont know what their doing or look friendly and approachable.
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    Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/21 11:35:15 (permalink)
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    Suicide grip?
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    Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/21 12:00:13 (permalink)
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    Haha, ive never heard that term but it sounds about right. Ive noticed one or two over the years adopting the "suicide grip", but ive never understood the reasoning behind it.
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    Re: Re: giving advise?? 2015/03/21 12:24:50 (permalink)
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    makaveli1971 1996


    Some people have clear mental health issues, I've seen guys come in my gym for the last 5 years and do the same thing every single workout, the funniest is this skinny man who every single time comes in picks up the 22kg DBS, does one arm bicep break your back curls at a time and then leaves after a few sets, he's clearly suffering from some mental health issues, no one ever says anything and this has been on going for 6 years now, the same thing 4 or so times a week.





    Good point. 
    Rather than weights exercises, it's the rowing machine that I reckon brings out the worst of bad technique, and this can often be seen during sessions with PTs. I indoor-rowed competitively, and train people now, so it irks and concerns me to see atrocious, possibly injurious technique, especially when a PT's there. That would be doubly intrusive, though, intervening during a session and pointing it out! Maybe a quiet word with the PT when he's not working...
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