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2006/07/14 23:19:09 (permalink)
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good mornings

Guys was wondering how many of u do these and how often and what kind of poundages u use and if they help ur squat or deadlift.currently doing them once a week working up to 120kg for reps,the gym trainer dosent seem to like me doing them he was shaking his head when he was watching me and thinks i should go very light
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    tokar
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/14 23:28:36 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: the future

    Guys was wondering how many of u do these and how often and what kind of poundages u use and if they help ur squat or deadlift.currently doing them once a week working up to 120kg for reps,the gym trainer dosent seem to like me doing them he was shaking his head when he was watching me and thinks i should go very light


    Unless you're using bad form then it sounds like the gym trainer is an idiot. Is this just a commercial gym or do you train with proper lifters? If it's the former then I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice of him. Plenty of people do very heavy good mornings and find them very beneficial.
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/14 23:30:12 (permalink)
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    I agree there a great exercise but you need to push them heavy for low reps.
    Knees slightly bent, good arch in the back and push your arse back to lower
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/14 23:43:29 (permalink)
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    Form was good i think people just cringe when they see u lifting a big weights and think u should be lifting light for hundreds of reps,its a commercial gym but its a great gym with power racks and everything
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/15 01:13:40 (permalink)
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    I love them, and credit them a lot to pushing my squat forward. As I Squat quite bent over, it's perfect for helping me push out of the hole. I'm up to 184kg at the moment.
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/15 10:39:26 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Fazc

    I love them, and credit them a lot to pushing my squat forward.


    Do you pause the reps halfway up to imitate your squat technique?

    Sorry, Faz... ;-)
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/15 10:43:32 (permalink)
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    I wouldn't do them if I had a badly injured back and/or a serious ab injury. But if that were the case, I wouldn't be doing much! People have lots of strange prejudices, and most people in most gyms in which I have been have little idea about any aspect of effective training. As Arnie reportedly once said: 'There's no such thing as a bad exercise: only exercises performed incorrectly or for the wrong purpose'.
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/15 13:02:51 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Doc D
    Do you pause the reps halfway up to imitate your squat technique?


    Yes, I base them on the 'GAS' principle. That is, if I don't let one go halfway up, i'm not working hard enough!
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/15 15:58:30 (permalink)
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    Ive been doing them as an ME sq/dl exercise for sets of 3 reps as follows:
    In the powerrack, set the safety bars at navel height (or just below). Set up as if to squat, walk out and lower the bar 'till it rests on the safety bars, pause, and then return to the upright position-awesome exercise for glutes, hams, abs and erectors. I managed triples of 130 in this fashion-I would imagine a more experienced/stronger lifter could reach much higher numbers. I used to be scared to death of them but now Im a convert as long as you maintain good form.
    However, I wouldnt like to use them for max singles.
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/15 17:43:47 (permalink)
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    I find them a good assistance exercise for the squat - but I havnt done them for months due to it being painfull on my hernia - Iv worked upto a triple with 240kg.
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/15 18:53:12 (permalink)
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    i think the prob stems from health & safety work issues and from stories of ppl injuring their back in later life.

    all the crappy h & s discussions we must go through in order to lift a 15kg box. when you can deadlift 10 times that weight and just pick it up any way you are immediately branded as a fool.

    i was once informed that i would "cream my back" while i was doing deadlifts. i took no notice i am cautious about training v heavy with them thou.
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/15 23:36:52 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: freak_in_cage

    i think the prob stems from health & safety work issues and from stories of ppl injuring their back in later life.

    all the crappy h & s discussions we must go through in order to lift a 15kg box. when you can deadlift 10 times that weight and just pick it up any way you are immediately branded as a fool.

    i was once informed that i would "cream my back" while i was doing deadlifts. i took no notice i am cautious about training v heavy with them thou.


    I agree that it does seem laughable to someone like us who could pick up plenty more than 15kg roundbacked without any trouble at all, but all the same it's reasonable for measures to be in place to prevent other weaker and less knowledgeable people from injuring themselves.

    Form was good i think people just cringe when they see u lifting a big weights and think u should be lifting light for hundreds of reps,its a commercial gym but its a great gym with power racks and everything


    I agree - people are generally afraid of heavy weights, particularly when you're lifting them with your back. But of course they don't realise that people like you haven't just shoved 120kg on the bar straight off the first time they've ever done good mornings - unlike plenty of people who try to lift weights that are far too heavy for them, which causes understandable concern.
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/16 17:04:55 (permalink)
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    "cream my back"
    that made me chuckle
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/16 17:24:14 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Welshdragon

    I find them a good assistance exercise for the squat - but I havnt done them for months due to it being painfull on my hernia - Iv worked upto a triple with 240kg.


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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/16 18:05:02 (permalink)
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    "cream my back"


    well , let me finish my tea and get the wife out to bingo.

    I have recentlytaken to performing GM's and really enjoy them

     
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    RE: good mornings 2006/07/24 03:09:41 (permalink)
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    Also just taken to them and not used over 100kg yet. Think I may try them on the power cage with a safety bar about waist level as mentioned earlier and try a little more poundage
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    RE: good mornings 2006/08/14 23:34:16 (permalink)
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    I have only gone light on the GMs, working up slowly. 52.5kg for me.
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