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2009/07/17 21:53:54 (permalink)

gym equipment

Hello all,
I am currently looking in to opening a gym where free weights will dominate and would appreciate any advice off the people who take this topic seriously(you).Have trained with various brands and asked others but what brands/equipment do others train with?Thanks for the help.
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    cliff_vtr
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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/17 22:44:39 (permalink)
    I think the best weights for traning are solid iron that have a lip and are easy to handle.  Some of the cheaper weights can be very inacurrate.  Although shelling out for calibrated one is very expensive.

    York make pretty reasonable training gear.  Ivanko are good but even their cheaper stuff is expensive.  Top end is probably Eleiko.


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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/18 09:34:39 (permalink)
    If you want top-quality kit (with custom specs), Watson's Gym Equipment offers a great service - really heavy-duty kit for not much more than you'd pay for off-the-shelf, mass-produced gear. Simon has produced stuff to my exact requirements (e.g. sumo base power rack with close hole spacing and customised J hooks, low-profile incline bench, custom GHR, etc., and after-sale support has been perfect and quick (e.g. free pair of safety squat bar handles a year after I bought the original bar). Can't say enough good things about the company. They have recently added a load of new specialist bars to the site as well, again at good prices.
     
    For bars and plates, a penny saved now will be a pound lost in the future. I'd bite the bullet and get the best. For power bars, I'm a big fan of Texas Power Bars - my favourite (ahead of Eleiko and Ivanko). For WL, I'm not really qualified to speak, but I'd want a couple of Eleiko competition bars just in case; these I have at least used, unlike e.g. Pendlay, Werksan, etc. For plates, cheap bumpers will break with worrying alacrity, and so it's best to get a good set. In a gym I set up at Uni, we inherited some Eleiko training bumpers which must have been 20 years old, and yet were still in great condition. I've seen cheap bumpers disintegrate within 20 weeks! SO, I'd do the Right Thing and get Eleiko bumpers - and I'd even go for competition ones to match my Eleiko bar (not amassively more expensive than the training bumpers, and much prettier - and could be used if your gym moves into organising comps etc.) Some calibrated metal plates for PL would be nice for the same reasons; Eleiko or Ivanko are great. You'll also need some bog-standard iron plates for loading up machines, but just about any half-reputable brand would do the job here: who cares if the plates are 500g light for a 1000kg leg press?
     
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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/18 12:51:02 (permalink)
    Ok mate, here are my opinions;

    The thing most often forgotten, as has been mentioned, is the quality of the bars. 2 good quality power bars as mentioned above,i.e. Texas Power Bar etc will go a long way, and attract powerlifters to use the gym.

    Be warned though as the vast majority of traiers even in a gym aimed at the hardcore market won't be able to tell the difference. This is because most of your clientele will be bodybuilders!

    Bumper plates are great, however, they are expensive and from a business perspective are they worth the cost? The number of olympic lifters in this country are negligible, and anyone who wants to train oly lifts for sports probs won't need bumper plates, nice, but not essential.

    TBH I'm guessing the aim of this gym will be to create profit? If so, unfortunately you will see more success catering for bb'ers rather than strength athletes.
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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/18 19:24:19 (permalink)
    Cheers chaps!cant believe how helpful you have all been.Your tips are much appreciated.Badboy007 you got it,i got to make a profit so bb ers are going to be the way forward.Do you think the brand of equipment needs to be changed to cater for this?once again thanks.
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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/18 19:46:52 (permalink)
    I think a couple of decent Texas Power Bars and a separate area for deadlifting is all you need to please powerlifters, aslong as the gym is chalk friendly!

    For BB'ing equipment I think you need to have all the usual sorts of things, i.e. good selection of dumbells, machines etc.

    Hammer strength machines seem to be particularly popular.
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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/18 20:47:17 (permalink)
    I '3rd' a texas power bar. Great all round bar, and not the expensive of a top line weightlifting bar will be.

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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/19 09:48:23 (permalink)
    To the OP: if BBers constitute your target clientele, it might make more sense not to ask about equipment in a forum devoted to PL/WL/strongman.

    And if money is your goal, forget bodybuilders as your clientele as well. Serious trainers tend to come from less affluent backgrounds, to take large amounts of 'ergogenic aids', scare less hardcore customers, etc. Ask anybody who runs a gym for any serious trainers (strength or physique orientated), and he/she will tell you that there is NO MONEY and a lot of heartache involved (the only hardcore gym owners whom I know who have made decent money in this country acquired it principally through - erm - activities 'subsidiary' to the actual gym ownership). The money will lie in pandering to the limited aspirations of the affluent and lazy, but you will need a lot of contacts, an ideal location, and a very clear business plan. There can be many, many disadvantages to turning one's passion into a profession...

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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/19 12:10:10 (permalink)
    lol, I've heard that the money is to be made in "other activities" too... Never seen it done overtly though, but absolutely certain it happens.

    Not that different from hardcore dance clubs in that respect.
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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/19 12:25:29 (permalink)
    badboy007 
    Never seen it done overtly though, but absolutely certain it happens.

     
    Things might have changed nowadays, given the ever-increaswing demonisation of AAS. I also don't frequent any public gyms now, and am well out of the loop. In the 80s and 90s... well, I won't name names or locations (although a couple of the chaps were busted), but let's say that there is an appropriate adage regarding exceptions making rules... FWIW,  I should say that all of the gyms involved were primarily for BBers. Whether the same applied in the select few establishments catering for strength athletes, I don't know.


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    Re:gym equipment 2009/07/21 18:51:10 (permalink)
    Cheers again chaps alll taken on board.
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