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2007/06/10 17:05:41 (permalink)
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hard vascular cycle?

how does this look i dont want the bloated round look from aas, now i want my physique to have more shape/ deffinition and my muscles to have a fuller look.

i was thinking
1-4 60mg tbol ed
1-12 500mg test e ew
4-12 400mg tren enth ew
1-12 800 eq ew

do you have any better sugestions? i was thinking about primo, would winny and primo be a better option?

i was wanting to use masteron but i cant see my abs so my bf would oviously effect the outcome but im not ready to cut yet

any help would be great thanks

(i dont have loads of cash to spend on a cycle i dont realy wana go over £400
also i dont think i could afford var, i would pay for clp primo though)
post edited by stone14 - 2007/06/10 17:06:29

i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/10 17:10:55 (permalink)
    id take out the test e to be honest. im maintaining on it at the moment and ive bloated out a little quite a bit even when im doing cardio 3-4 times a week.

    looking fuller and chunkier but as for a vascular cycle, i wouldnt recommend it unless of course your goal is to look vascular after the cycle, during the cycle, nope, i would go with prop.

    my neck is fatter lol my belly is bigger but i know its down to water as my diet is pretty good. sticking to about 2k t 3k cals ed with a lifestyle that isnt so active (sitting on the net looking and applying for jobs for most of the day).

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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/10 19:48:47 (permalink)
    Im currently running

    80mg Tbol
    750 Sust
    300 Tren Eth

    I doubt you need that much tren along side EQ and Test. I woulndt cut the test at all IMO.
    Id maybe cut the tren back a bit. 200-300.

    Diet/Cardio will ensure a vasculare look. Keep an eye on BP as EQ at high doses can elevate it.
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/10 20:15:44 (permalink)
    imo its overly complicated

    "how does this look i dont want the bloated round look from aas, now i want my physique to have more shape/ deffinition and my muscles to have a fuller look."

    if thats what you want to need to cut. no amount of drugs will give you that ONLY lowering your bady fat will

    run

    100mg prop
    75mg tren

    both EOD and cut your bodyfat - if you want more mass use the rebound for this
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/10 21:20:41 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: cLaTTeReD


    both EOD and cut your bodyfat - if you want more mass use the rebound for this



    rebound? do you mean bulk up as soon as cutting is finished?

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

    main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.
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    stone14
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/10 22:18:55 (permalink)
    when on a cut with clen + ECA and t3 will primo (600mg+ ew) only be enought to keep all muscle mass?

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

    main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/10 22:54:05 (permalink)
    600mg primo is more than enough-

    Although much more expensive then 250mg test.
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/11 02:24:10 (permalink)
    tbh, i dont know whats felt around this board but after doing some reading from a few people on boards, im starting to be apprehensive about using t'x' meds even when used 'safely'. was reading around different places and a lot of experienced users advocated you should really use it unless you are truely and experienced user yourself as t meds can and will f you up for the rest of your life if you happen to miss or incorrectly and accidently do a different dose as expected.

    still though, i recon in all honest, simple prop, tren acc and winny would suffice, you could even double the normal prop shot eod and keep the others the same, just have more test so you at least have 6-8mls of test ew.

    Hazard a touch of narcissism without shame.
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/11 14:18:00 (permalink)
    best cycle for what your after would be test prop, tren acetate and winny. Lean hard gains, little water retention and vascularity.
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/11 14:18:48 (permalink)
    Anavar? im suprised nobodys mentioned it.
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/11 19:38:00 (permalink)
    i couldnt afford var m8 i would rather use tbol or winny, i would prob splash out for primo but not var aswell, not yet anyway i prob will one day

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

    main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/16 03:08:12 (permalink)
    hi stone14 me personally would run something along the lines of;
    week1-week12: test prop 100mg ED
    week1-week10: primo 800mg EW
    week1-week6: tren ace 75/100mg ED
    week6-week12:winny 50mg ED
    week6-week12:masteron prop 150mg EOD
    week1-week12: 1 arimidex EOD
    Now that my friend is a very nice & sweet cycle
    that with a good clean diet and cardio 45mins ED u will reap the benifits
    post edited by harrym - 2007/06/16 03:15:30
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/16 04:30:43 (permalink)
    It is a good idea to have your blood levels stay constant throuhout a cycle.
    i.e, have your blood to steroid ratio even through the cycle.
    Does this mean you have to wake up at the middle of the night to take your tabs.

    EX: D-bol, take 4-6 daily even incraments

    ~chuq~
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/16 10:39:53 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ~chuq~

    It is a good idea to have your blood levels stay constant throuhout a cycle.
    i.e, have your blood to steroid ratio even through the cycle.
    Does this mean you have to wake up at the middle of the night to take your tabs.

    EX: D-bol, take 4-6 daily even incraments

    i usually just split them in 3xdaily doses ie; morning,preworkout,about 10pm
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    RE: hard vascular cycle? 2007/06/16 14:52:25 (permalink)
    Could it be possible to just do breakfast, lunch , then dinner?

    ~chuq~
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