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2014/11/04 18:42:21 (permalink)

help with healthy bulk please .

I barely post but iam here most days reading, i was wondering whether someone would be so kind as to help me with a bulking diet that may also be of benefit to my health?    I dont eat eggs or meat, but i do eat pretty much everything else, whey protein, all fish and so on.   i currently weigh 103kg, dont know my fat percentage, i can just about see top 4 abs in certain light......i dont mind my stomach staying the same but i would like to continue to gain muscle.  i currently eat at 7am, 10am, 12.30pm, 3pm, 6pm and before bed usually about 10pm with the emphasis being on protein but with little thought to anything else if iam honest.  Any help with getting bigger and healthier would be much appreciated
 
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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/04 19:11:48 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby stinking_dylan 2014/11/05 13:43:28
Sounds like you're doing ok mate, just make sure you're getting plenty of veg and healthy fat and avoid anything overly processed.
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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/05 13:43:16 (permalink)
^ what Kaneda said
 
Just add more food avoiding the processed stuff.

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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/05 19:34:30 (permalink)
I'd say try to be consistent with your diet, weigh yourself first thing in the morning regularly and adjust the amount of food you eat accordingly. If your not gaining weight just add more food. I've just started a bulk myself, I think you just have to be committed and persistent and results will come.
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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/05 20:14:39 (permalink)
thanks for the input guys, it seems that whenever i eat healthy food only, i lose weight and strength.....im guessing its the amount of calories..........eating all the crap i do,  gives me gains but obviously isnt good for me.  I would like to be reasonably healthy aswel as bigger and stronger.  would swapping the crap food for a weight gainer be a better choice maybe?
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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/05 20:25:11 (permalink)
If your 103 and in half decent condition then it will likely take a fair few cals to gain with. I'm around the same (105 tops) and eating all the cals I need clean is not easy. So use some 'junk' to help top things up. That doesn't mean bulking on crap, but just adding in the extra with a bit of 'naughty'. Add a a couple of biscuits in with some meals. Drink whole rather than skimmed milk for some of your shakes. Make yourself some treats... I knock up scones (stupidly easy to make) and breadpudding (even easier) and round of a couple of meals with either of those. Nuts.
 
It doesn't bloat you out or leave you feeling nauseous, doesn't cost much, and it's nice.

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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/06 09:15:18 (permalink)
It depends what you count as eating clean... That term can be very misleading. 
 
As per DV, eating clean can make it hard to hit calories for a bigger chap intending to add size on.
 
Post up a typical days eating and we can help.

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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/06 18:32:52 (permalink)
thanks dirtyvest and lone wolf..........ill post up an average days eating (im almost emabarassed to write it lol)
 
meal 1 - protein shake, 2 slices toast with jam, or just butter.
meal 2 - tin of tuna, brown bap packet of crisps, kitkat
meal 3 - tuna sandwiches (4 slices bread, 1tin tuna salad cream)
meal 4 - protein shake
meal 5 - 2 baked potatoes, 2 cod portions in breadcrumbs, big pile of veg such as cabbage or peas etc....
meal 6 - 2 scoop protein shake.
 
this is a basic day sometimes theres more crap in between, or meal 5 is a big chinese or fish and chips etc.....like i said above i dont really count numbers i just make sure i have protein every few hours.
(usually in between these meals there is some bananas or biscuits/cake that people bring into work)
 
 below  is what i was thinking might be better, let me know what you think. was planning on just having a bit of fruit or another shake in between if i felt the need.  no more junk, but still alot of calories i assume :)
 
meal 1 - big tablespoon peanut butter, 2 bananas, cup of oats, scoop of whey in a blender.
meal 2 - protein shake, some fruit
meal 3 - 2 tins of mackerel, cup of pasta or rice.
meal 4 - protein shake
meal 5 - 2 baked potatoes, plain fish fillet,  big portion of veg or salad
meal 6 - big tablespoon peanut butter, 2 bananas, cup of oats, scoop of whey in a blender.
 
thanks again for the help. 
post edited by nightbirdssong - 2014/11/06 19:05:57
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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/06 19:14:54 (permalink)
Plan 2 has a bit more variety, breakfast is more substantial. Not sure if over all it still isn't a bit light in cals but there's only one way to find out, easy to add to if needed

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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/08 09:13:20 (permalink)
Hey,
 
Well done on posting your diet up! It's often actually quite hard to write it up, well I find it is anyways!
 
I think you are low in Cals, and could do with more. Have you looked at adding additional healthy fats, nuts , seeds etc?
 
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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/08 15:58:02 (permalink)
it was quite hard to write up actually as i just basically eat everything in sight lol,  i might swap the whey powder for a weight gainer, that would be 500 cals per scoop (of the one i have been looking at). so if i had a scoop with my first and last meals and then 2 scoops during the day sometime that would be 2000 cals alone, maybe this would work better?  this nutrition stuff is hard, cutting must be so difficult....lifelong bulk for me i think ;p  i dont really like nuts, but i do like nut butters i might go and stock up on a few different ones. thanks
post edited by nightbirdssong - 2014/11/08 16:00:22
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Re: help with healthy bulk please . 2014/11/09 07:41:14 (permalink)
I've made my own gainer before if I've needed the extra cals, just use your regular whey and add some oats and peanut butter or another kind of nut butter if you like those this along with milk would be a good option for getting in some extra cals.
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