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how dangerous is clen?

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2005/07/21 17:18:44 (permalink)

how dangerous is clen?

Hi guys im interested in taking clen and was wondering if it can damage your long term health? has anybody tried it and what kind of results have you seen??

thanks very much
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:21:29 (permalink)
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:26:25 (permalink)
    all meds are dangerous if you dont know enough about them...read the link posted above by Frenchie and it will give you a better understanding!!!

    for peace of mind it isnt the most dangerous drug to use as a fat burner...
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:28:49 (permalink)
    thanks for your replies. is it worth taking if im looking to get lean and muscle up?
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:36:26 (permalink)
    its all explained in the sticky m8

    clen will help you lose the fat % and its non catabolic so it wont strip u of the hard earn muscle...but lossing weight and fat is all down to your diet and training m8 if that aint nailed its pointless ramming loads of chemicals into you, post your diet and current training routines up in the appropreate forums for others to comment on that way you know all there is to know abt lossing that bf%
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:36:52 (permalink)
    Becoming lean and 'muscling up' are opposites in that you generally require a negative calorie balance to shed fat, and a positive calorie balance to gain mass/muscle. Therefore it is very difficult to achieve both goals at the same time.

    What is your primary goal of the two?

     
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:40:09 (permalink)
    i suppose my primary goal is to get ripped but ive heard you should bulk up first and then cut. is this true?
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:42:44 (permalink)
    its down to ur goal mate do u want be ripped as in body builder ripped or ripped as in fitness model looking ripped???
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:43:39 (permalink)
    more of the fitness model look
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:49:19 (permalink)
    First areas to nail would be diet and cardio using ideas derived and obtained from the appropriate forums.

    As weight loss starts to slow, ECA/Clen can be considered to provide a 'boost'. Using drugs without the basics in place will yield little, if any effect.

     
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:51:49 (permalink)
    would you not recomend using clen/eca straight away then? im probably at about 14-15% body fat and want to get into single digits.
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:54:29 (permalink)
    No I wouldn't. Getting from 15% down to 10% is relatively easy for most through proper diet manipulation, training and cardio. Once you go sub 10% things get somewhat tougher possibly necessitating the inclusion of the meds
    post edited by PartyBoy - 2005/07/21 17:55:05

     
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 17:56:24 (permalink)
    i wouldnt m8 no yet...concerntrate on your diet just remeber its cals in verus cal out at the end of the day just aim for abt 350 to 500 cals bellow maintenance.

    once you get into it a little more then incoperate other things into your system like the clen. As PB mentioned above... " As weight loss starts to slow, ECA/Clen can be considered to provide a 'boost'. Using drugs without the basics in place will yield little, if any effect."

    how long you been training for?
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 18:05:06 (permalink)
    i have been training for about 6 months and lost alot of fat. but due to going on holiday and an injury i havent been to the gym in about 5 weeks, and put in a few (well more than a few) pounds. so im quite clued about about diet and nutrition etc. just wanted to take it to the "next level" in terms of getting ripped etc. i know i will be able to lose fat when i go back but it always seems so slow off after about a month. hence why i want to take clen/eca.
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 18:10:27 (permalink)
    i know i will be able to lose fat when i go back but it always seems so slow off after about a month. hence why i want to take clen/eca.


    sounds like you need to be more mentally focused and a little more determined...what you put in is what you get out!!!1

    if i was you id just stick with your diet and training for at least a year and then re-assess your situation after that belive me after a solid year of dieting and training correctly you'l notice a huge difference in your body.

    just stick with it m8

    and when you feel as tho your easing of the gas a little get a post up on here and let every one help you. We'r all here to help eachother and a bit of moral support can go a long way!
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 18:26:25 (permalink)
    thanks a lot for your help.
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 18:30:47 (permalink)
    no probs m8 just stick with it
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 18:43:33 (permalink)
    I think it depends on who u are... I took it for a couple of days and nearly had a heart attack. I wouldn't use it unless ur trying to get pretty low bf.
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 18:47:11 (permalink)
    I took it for a couple of days and nearly had a heart attack.


    have you had a check up lately by ur doc may be worth it how many did you take for this effect to happen?
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    RE: how dangerous is clen? 2005/07/21 21:49:57 (permalink)
    Hi

    I personally can't handle the sides from Clen. Only ever taken 1 20mg tab, but was ill for a good 24 hrs. Dizzyness, nausea and an excruciating headache that lasted over 6 hrs. I don't think many others have had such a bad reaction tho.
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