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2014/03/31 12:10:10 (permalink)
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how safe is Ostarine?

very interested in this product. How safe is it? or dont we really know?
 
Im guessing no pct is required? as i see people using it during pct for other products.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/03/31 13:06:17 (permalink)
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You are correct in assuming we know little about Ostarine at this stage. Although clinical trials have shown it to be relatively safe and side effect free (as does customer feedback) this only demonstrates the short term effects. As with any new product it is impossible to state any possivle long term effects as the data simply isn't available at this stage in time. 
 
No PCT require, that is correct. However, try to keep doses down to around 20mg if you don't intend to use PCT as Ostarine can be slightly suppressive at higher dosages. 
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/03/31 14:45:15 (permalink)
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- No estrogenic
- No PCT needed
- No sides (Im using it,this is my 6 days and all sides i have is dry mouth)
Check out my log
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/03/31 18:11:24 (permalink)
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it looks like a good product im just a little skeptical about not knowing the long term effects. but then again i have run prohormones without thinking twice.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/03/31 18:35:06 (permalink)
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it looks like a good product im just a little skeptical about not knowing the long term effects. but then again i have run prohormones without thinking twice.


If you've run pro-hormones then this should be less risk.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 09:15:00 (permalink)
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do you know how it effects the hairline? i have read conflicting information.
 
if i took revolver which is 25mg ed for around 40 days should i still be ok without pct?
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 10:20:36 (permalink)
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Never heard of hairline issues. The whole point of SARMS is to have the anabolic effect with none of the androgenic. Even if the effect was comparable to AAS with weak androgenic effect like nandrolone you'd need a lot of it or to be highly predisposed for it to cause more hair loss than what your own testosterone already does.
 
The most worrying side effect with this class of SARMS is blurred vision. For some reason they have an effect on your eyes, and since these are research drugs we really don't know if they cause any permanent damage. They are also very weak anabolics - and ostarine is the strongest of them.
 
I remember when it first came out people using it at 25mg, getting some suppression from that (not full shutdown as with steroids but test levels below normal), eyesight issues and very mild gains. Seems to me like these drugs may be the future of performance enhancing and could replace steroids altogether, but are still in very early stages and have very limited usefulness.
 
I wouldn't bother with SARMS just yet unless I were a woman. In that case even a very mild anabolic effect should be noticeable, and without the risk of virilization.
 
In regards to PCT even at a high ostarine dose it's probably overkill. You get some suppression but not enough for the testes to lose mass, so recovery is pretty fast.
post edited by Uriel - 2014/04/01 10:27:49
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:00:00 (permalink)
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Never heard of hairline issues. The whole point of SARMS is to have the anabolic effect with none of the androgenic. Even if the effect was comparable to AAS with weak androgenic effect like nandrolone you'd need a lot of it or to be highly predisposed for it to cause more hair loss than what your own testosterone already does.
 
The most worrying side effect with this class of SARMS is blurred vision. For some reason they have an effect on your eyes, and since these are research drugs we really don't know if they cause any permanent damage. They are also very weak anabolics - and ostarine is the strongest of them.
 
I remember when it first came out people using it at 25mg, getting some suppression from that (not full shutdown as with steroids but test levels below normal), eyesight issues and very mild gains. Seems to me like these drugs may be the future of performance enhancing and could replace steroids altogether, but are still in very early stages and have very limited usefulness.
 
I wouldn't bother with SARMS just yet unless I were a woman. In that case even a very mild anabolic effect should be noticeable, and without the risk of virilization.
 
In regards to PCT even at a high ostarine dose it's probably overkill. You get some suppression but not enough for the testes to lose mass, so recovery is pretty fast.


So it may be dodgy with little to no gains then IYO.
Not what we want to here really.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:03:04 (permalink)
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Never heard of hairline issues. The whole point of SARMS is to have the anabolic effect with none of the androgenic. Even if the effect was comparable to AAS with weak androgenic effect like nandrolone you'd need a lot of it or to be highly predisposed for it to cause more hair loss than what your own testosterone already does.
 
The most worrying side effect with this class of SARMS is blurred vision. For some reason they have an effect on your eyes, and since these are research drugs we really don't know if they cause any permanent damage. They are also very weak anabolics - and ostarine is the strongest of them.
 
I remember when it first came out people using it at 25mg, getting some suppression from that (not full shutdown as with steroids but test levels below normal), eyesight issues and very mild gains. Seems to me like these drugs may be the future of performance enhancing and could replace steroids altogether, but are still in very early stages and have very limited usefulness.
 
I wouldn't bother with SARMS just yet unless I were a woman. In that case even a very mild anabolic effect should be noticeable, and without the risk of virilization.
 
In regards to PCT even at a high ostarine dose it's probably overkill. You get some suppression but not enough for the testes to lose mass, so recovery is pretty fast.


I was under the impression that it was S4 (maybe S1?) that caused vision problems - not ostarine?
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:04:15 (permalink)
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S4 was worse, and caused other sides too. Ostarine is supposed to be a big improvement, but I've still heard people complaining at high doses.
 
In terms of development stage, I'd put S4 as "alpha", Osta as "beta". I'm still waiting for a final, working, bug-free release.
post edited by Uriel - 2014/04/01 11:05:21
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:18:12 (permalink)
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S4 was worse, and caused other sides too. Ostarine is supposed to be a big improvement, but I've still heard people complaining at high doses.
 
In terms of development stage, I'd put S4 as "alpha", Osta as "beta". I'm still waiting for a final, working, bug-free release.


I am on 25mg/day is this too much then?.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:20:21 (permalink)
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If sides appear i will definitely leave the Osta
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:23:09 (permalink)
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Dont expect steroid like gains with Ostarine and you wont be dissapointed , suppression should be mild too so no need for a aggressive pct.
There are sides with all ph / hormonal drugs but I believe the vision problems were associated with Andarine another SARM under GTX.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:27:04 (permalink)
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Yes im not expecting a lot of Osta,just keeping the muscle mass while im cutting
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:34:08 (permalink)
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S4 was worse, and caused other sides too. Ostarine is supposed to be a big improvement, but I've still heard people complaining at high doses.
 
In terms of development stage, I'd put S4 as "alpha", Osta as "beta". I'm still waiting for a final, working, bug-free release.


I am on 25mg/day is this too much then?.


You should know how you feel on it bro.
 
But I've seen people posting blood results on that dose, with their test levels way below normal and complaining of blurry vision.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:34:43 (permalink)
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I just checked my BP 161 over 87.
Thats high for me.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:37:10 (permalink)
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Yes im not expecting a lot of Osta,just keeping the muscle mass while im cutting


I think the medical dose for ostarine (for preventing muscle wasting due to disease or restoring muscle/bone mass in elderly) is like 2.5-5mg/day. For simply preserving muscle on a cut I've heard good things from people using half a pill (12.5mg). For that it seems to work very well.
 
It's when you want supraphysiological growth (like from steroids) that it comes up short. Much like GH.
post edited by Uriel - 2014/04/01 11:38:38
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 11:39:34 (permalink)
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Then i´ll achieve my goal for sure :)
Now i winder uf 40 days at 30 mg will be pretty high on dose..because then i´ll use Epi + Halo another 40 days
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 12:10:10 (permalink)
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I just checked my BP 161 over 87.
Thats high for me.


Yeah that's pretty high.
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Re: how safe is Ostarine? 2014/04/01 12:19:32 (permalink)
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It's coming down a bit 148/80
I did have a savage workout a couple of hours ago.
 
EDIT: 128/89 now good news all round.
I must have taken it to close to training.
post edited by Johnnybrecks - 2014/04/01 14:25:18
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