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im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle

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2011/04/08 19:38:06 (permalink)
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im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle

ok so i have been looking here and online for a while so please dont tell me just to do a search or to no use steroids because im posting here to get the right help from someone willing to help me out.
 
im 25 6'0 165 lbs very strong very good workout routine 4-5 days a week all muscle groups twice a week mostly i split up my excercises to keep my muscles confused and my diet is on point. i eat a lot of protein like grilled chicken, red meat, egg whites, protein shakes, no junk food. im stronger than most people double my size ( im a really big 165) but i dont grow so im going to do my first cycle ever and i really need some help. a friend of mine got me some steroids and i dont know if he knows what hes talking about or not so i wanted to check here. i have one....
1 10ml vial of vioxx supertest 400 mg  
1 10ml vial of vioxx stanozolol 50 mg
(vet use products)
 
i dont know if this is enough or what dosage to take it in over what period of time. i still need to order pins and seringes and find some liver protector. im ready to get going but i cant start til i know how to take it. i duno if i got good stuff or got screwed but he didnt seem like he knew **** about how to take it so im not going to listen to him. please help me out!!!
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    MrBurn
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/08 20:01:06 (permalink)
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    What is your diet like - give us the details - what is your training experience etc.
     
    Then we can help you - saying you are twice as strong and a big 165 doesnt mean that much.
     
    Re the legitimacy of the gear, without pics I can't tell you mate.

    Still waiting to dead 300kg...... 
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/08 20:24:55 (permalink)
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    I don't know what you think steroids will do but if you aint growing its cos you aint eating enough and steroids will be near on useless if you aint eating enough!
     
    You will need more than that for a full cycle mate. Working muscle groups twice a week?
     
    Personally do 1 but if you must, hope this doesnt include bi/tris?
     
    You will need to do some research anyway mate to get a clue on PCT, length of cycle etc..but you seem pretty set on it so i'd do 500mg test EW for 12 weeks.
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    MrBurn
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/08 20:26:37 (permalink)
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    Wait, 6ft at 165lbs - you have a hell of a lot of work to do before you turn to gear mate. Eat MORE!

    Still waiting to dead 300kg...... 
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/08 20:44:57 (permalink)
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    all im asking for is how much i need to take how often for how many weeks and when to start the stanzolol and what pins to use. all the info i have got so far is 18 gauge pins to draw 22-25 gauge x 1 1/2" to inject and i dont know how many cc's or mg's to take when once a week? once a day? eod? i dont know how much is in a 10 ml bottle i have no idea. i know my cycle should be what like 8 -10 weeks total? and i have taken test boosters before and use post cycle therapy by anabolic extrreme will that work in this case as well....as far as workouts heres a basic idea
     
    monday chest tris traps- heavy chest 3 sets 6-8 reps incline decline and flat bench or dumbells, tris include about 4 diff workouts with light of heavy weight depending on how i feel.  and traps just alot of sets from all angles in between tri sets
     
    tuesday back and bis 4 back workouts 3 sets each 4 bi workouts 2-3 sets each all spaced out alternating between each to rest muscle groups.
     
    wed off 
     
    thur chest tris and traps light chest hi reps for stamina tris opposite of what i did tue as far as weight goes similiar excercises and mix up some trap workouts
     
    fri back and bis diff bi workouts than i did on tue and same worn out back workouts that i know im trying to learn new ones now.....also depending on how i feel/my scedule i will do legs and shoulders either on wed or sat or just work into a workout somewhere i usually only do those once a week . i get plenty to sleep and im in the process of eating alot more i know i need to eat more thats not a problem but im taking this cycle to get stronger and lean up as well towards the end for summer ill try to post up pics when u see the pics ull understand you would think im easily 185 pounds i just have small ass legs and a huge upper body cuz i never worked out legs and im finally getting back in the good habit of doing legs every week. i can always use more tips on how to eat dont tell me to eat more tell me WHAT to eat so i can learn. i get fat extremely easy it took 3 months of hard training to look as good as i do now and i can be fat inside a week or two so i gotta be careful what i eat alot of. any more help would be appreciated
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/08 20:49:13 (permalink)
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    Your routine is awful mate. Go over to the routine section.
     
    And mate, you said originally you don't want to do the research  and are asking all the questions here - there is a wealth of posts and info on here. You are being very lazy and there would be 100+ threads a day if everyone thought/acted like you.
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/08 20:51:16 (permalink)
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    Your routine is awful, I suspect your diet is awful, and you have not done the research. Sell the meds, start at the beginner sections please.

    Still waiting to dead 300kg...... 
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/08 21:35:10 (permalink)
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    Ip,
     
    Mate imo you need to take a good look at your diet, made a huge difference to me, once I nailed the prot/carb and fat my size increased noticeably.  You wont grow if you dont have a excess of cals in your system, getting fat is easy if your eating bucketloads of sugary crap.
     
    For Example my diet is per day
    300g complex carbs thats wholewheat rice/pasta and couscous
    300g of protien with meats and shakes
    80g of fat
    thats divided into 6 meals, I load carbs and protien pre and post workout as well.
     
    If your diet is bang on with the right carbs and protien .. without mars bars, beer sweets and all that **** you shouldnt get fat in a few weeks as you said. Once you have nailed that you will gain weight and size and body fat.
     
    Thats imo and I am no expert
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/09 10:46:55 (permalink)
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    Have a look at the diet and training forums mate for ideas for improvements. There's little point in using drugs unless you have the basics pretty much nailed.

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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/09 12:41:07 (permalink)
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    Last time I used vet gear I couldn't stop p***ing on lamp posts lol
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/09 16:21:18 (permalink)
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    lpmotorsports it's idiots like you that give steroids a bad rep. before you take steroids you need to sort diet, training infact scrap that you need to sort everything cant beleave you dont train legs and bi's and tri's twice a week. there are to many fools like you around who think steroids are the easy option i have read some other threads on here by other people who i thought were clueless but i think you may have topped that
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/10 16:21:43 (permalink)
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    Im no expert but as a quick reply, using what you got there id do 1ml test week for 10 weeks that will be 10ml
     
    Also what type of test is it?? as it may be worth injecting the 1ml over 2 jabs example mon thur
     
    Stanozol wouldnt be worth taking unless you got another bottle.
     
    But you need to eat at least extra 1000 calories than your eating now.
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/10 16:24:53 (permalink)
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    I agree with with what ashley says but this guy will start his cycle anyway regards if we tell him bout diet training etc etc everyone does lol
     
    So if he going to take it he need to train and eat like a horse or he will have ended cycle with no results.
     
    Ps do you have any pct??
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/10 23:45:30 (permalink)
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    To the OP - I dedicate my user name to you....
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/11 08:17:58 (permalink)
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    I think there is 10ml in a 10ml vial.........
     
     
     
     
     
    1 10ml vial of vioxx supertest 400 mg  = 4000mg per 10ml = 400mg per 1ml
     
    but dont bother until you educate yourself on the basics of diet and training, then put them into practice. I have a feeling you will regret it later if you just go full steam ahead, steroids are not the miracle quick fix your hoping for.
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/11 18:54:47 (permalink)
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    What are you talking mate?
     
    10ml is 10ml, whatever the potency of that ml is irrelevant. 
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/12 06:34:46 (permalink)
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    bro, even if you decide to do it at this point these are not the best meds for your 1st cycle, especially if you want to go for mass. Taking what ever you have is not a good idea.... A word of advice. Take yourself up to about 180 naturally. Do a search for bodybuilding mass diets and see how many cals/fats/carbs etc you have to eat, how often and at what portions. Hopefully it wouldn't take you more then 6 months to get to this level naturally. then you consider a mass cycle. If you get to that point in 6 months you know you are doing things correctly. PS and make sure it's solid 20lbs and not 20 lbs of fat from junk food. Then, You keep your test, assuming it's longer ester. you don't need to stab yourself with prop ed or eod on your 1st cycle, you see what I mean? Sell your winny and get some deca for example and you got yourself a good beginner mass cycle. feel free to pm me if you need help.
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    Re:im new! please help!! steroid use/dosage first cycle 2011/04/12 10:46:17 (permalink)
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    i dont know if this is enough or what dosage to take it in over what period of time.

     
    Sorry miss read this, thought you were asking what the dosage of the test was.

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