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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 11:15:16 (permalink)
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hi mark dont waste your money on paying someone for the diet its simple,
 
arniemonkey its only simple if you have all the answers! and i very much doubt that, because you would be the first to advise getting help if you had a clue. I am not doubting your ablity to prep yourself but photos would back up you claim.  
 
Mark view it this way pay someone else not just any knob but do you homework, its then there headach and this will lighten your load heaps, trust me the last thing you will be wanting to do is sort your diet when thing are not changing fast enough when you cant even remember what day it is, dont think it will happen to you ??? just spend a night reading peoples experances on here that have or are prepping you will be no differant. 
view it as insurance this is your first show, do this one right and you will enjoy it and will return, get it wrong and you probley wont make show day,
Lets get one thing straight this ant no walk in the park, this is going to push you harder than you have been pushed before anyone tells you its easy there ether got the genes of a greek god or there full of ****.
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 21:15:55 (permalink)
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Thanks for the comments guys, both good and bad - Im a sponge for advice and feedback at the moment!
Had some good news today at work that a big OT payment that was due at the end of April is actually coming at the end of March! So the guidance of someone else on the prep can be afforded!

Legs tonight
Leg Press
240kg x 10
320kg x 10
400kg x 10
440kg x 10, 10, 10
400kg x 10
360kg x 10

Leg raise
Full rack 3 x 15

Hamstring curls
Full rack 4 x 15

Donkey Calf
160kg x 10
200kg x 10, 10, 10

Single leg hamstrings
35kg x 10, 10, 10, 10

Seated calf
80kg per side x 12, 12, 12, 12 really squeezing hard at the top.


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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 21:19:33 (permalink)
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Def get some prep help... if not for the knowledge but for keeping your head straight for when you look in the mirror and think you look like a pile of crap

Good luck

And though she be but little, she is fierce..
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 21:37:19 (permalink)
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Yeah, Im hoping the mirror is going to be my friend rather than my enemy.... Im fully aware Im going to lose size so Im hoping that seeing the size going but (hopefully) definition replacing it will be the drive I need! (haha, this is where you all go "oh bless, look at the naive noob!").

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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 21:39:39 (permalink)
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Bless

Sometimes, when you're caught up in the prep, it's REALLY hard to look at yourself objectively.

And though she be but little, she is fierce..
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 22:20:41 (permalink)
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silly comment ........oh ok be like a robot and do what everyone else does ..what works for them MUST work for you then we all have the same body so spend away...getting advice is ok but paying some pt to tell you what you can find on the net makes no sense ....we all tend to have chicken broc and rice oats fish and thats about it so i dont see the point thats all....
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 22:26:43 (permalink)
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scrub ...are you telling me that it s a complicated thing we all do pretty much the same thing diet wise im no expert but as all the pro s keep saying theres no secrets its all simple but if people need someone to say they look great etc then get your wallet out ..i know any help will do but training partners etc could help for free and people here thats all regards photo s ...nahhh i leave it till show day also you might hunt me down ..lol
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 22:38:35 (permalink)
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No worries Arniemonkey, Im going to look to advice as security I guess. As its my first time, I dont know how my body will respond to cutting - and I know, no one else will either - but getting advice will help me stick to a plan. When things dont feel like they are working, I can ask the questions specific to what the plan is and the person helping me will in theory know the answers specific to what I am doing.
If I am in control on my own, I will worry and panic - and I know I will do too much reading, look at too many options and probably end up flitting between a million options and end up screwing up my prep.
Next year, I will have my first cut and my first comp behind me and I will be far more aware of how my body responds - so maybe then I will be more comfortable with being in sole control.
For this year though, I think the option of heeding someone far more knowledgables advice is the best route for me to take.


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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 22:46:01 (permalink)
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Its no harm in paying someone to help you out of needed. If anything it'll put your mind at ease. Its not something I've done yet but quiet a few people do and they rate it.
As for loosing size, don't worry about it, you'll feel heaps better when your defintion starts to show. I'm down 2 stone since Jan and have had people tell me I look bigger. Bodybuilding is all an illusion
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/14 23:08:34 (permalink)
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hey mark go for it if you think it ll help....i just think they ll tell you what you know already. eat chicken do cardio dont eat junk etc have you not got a guy at your gym whose competed or use all the people on here for help. anyway, enough said i keep upsetting people ..dont mean to but if your not saying ass kissing stuff you get a mauling on here train hard and good luck
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/15 09:29:22 (permalink)
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I hear what you're saying about a prep guy Arnie and this has come up on another forum too, I do agree with you to an extent.
Here's how I see it, if my car breaks down I know for sure that given a haynes manual and my toolbox I can fix any problem on it what so ever.  I've rebuilt engines, performed god knows how many performace up grades and so on but if I take it to my good mate who's a mechanic, he can do the job quicker and save me a lot of time, swearing an knuckle scrapping.

The same could be said about prep as you have pointed out, yes it's a case of reducing cals, doing a lot of cardio and training hard, but having someone there to help you along makes it a touch easier.
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/15 10:39:43 (permalink)
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Arniemonkey the longer you stick around the more you will find this site is not like a lot of all the other, we like to hear your opion for you might say something that helps someone else and thats what this site is all about offering advice and shareing your experances, but come here and bull sh** and you will get flamed, when you take into account who the member of this forum are and there winning pedegree, bear in mind a lot offer there advice for free, if you dont ask you will never know, no one is saying you have to pay for your advice, all that is being said is that if you do its one less thing for you to do, lets be honist going to work family life and all that comes with that, doesnt leave much time to study to a level that would equipt you with the knowlege to prep your self to your best ability first time around, just to add its not simply eat chicken and broc rice and fish, more so when you are cutting your diet need to be balanced as you are stressing your body above and beyond normal use, but you know this as you have done your home work but if you offer advice like eat chicken and broc rice and fish make sure you add all the additinal information as we do have people reading these journals that just follow whats been written, they are not all as informed as you, because they wouldnt take into account the speed of there motoblisam and the rate they burn cals there is no point bulking and adding good muscle mass to stripe it all off with a poor cutting diet.
And as far as hunt you down i have better more constructive use for my time,
when is you comp and i hope you will be running a journal, shareing you diet as there is nothing to hide as its just chicken and broc rice and fish   
 
Sorry Mark to hijack your journal last words on the subject from me i guess the proof will be in the pudding.
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/15 13:34:00 (permalink)
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my comps on the 8th may nabba midlands my diet is 6 egg whites oats with water shake         shake at 10....chick broc rice 12 30     shake at 3 train chick broc rice /potato 5   trout salad 8 ish dried fruit and rice cakes with bit of peanut butter thats the lot .17 weeks no cheats dropping eggs and shake s and driet fruit about 4 weeks out.and a joural ..nahhh who really wants to know about my going out or what i lifted today ..its not twitter! but i like reading the comments i was trying to be friendly with the hunting me down bit .but you seem to have thought i was serious anyway good luck scrub ..ill be shredded on that diet hope you come in ripped too.
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/15 14:35:47 (permalink)
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Arnie, we hear what your saying my freind and I,m sure Mark can make up his own mind in his own time. With your reference to me being a p.t. yes I am with 30 years experience, and bodybuilding titles behind me, I am here to help people give them advice when I can and its not all to be paid for, thats not what m/t is about.
  I wish you all the best in your show and like Mark there are many people here to help if you start having problems, like scrubby this is where we can now get off the subject and let Mark run his journal the way he intended.
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/15 21:09:51 (permalink)
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agreed!! my gripe was paying for advice thats all. not getting it, thats why im here, for help too .i know your a pt and seeing you in action i have no issue with that gl all and mark sorry to clutter your journal (i seem to get myself in the **** a lot ...)
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/15 21:19:49 (permalink)
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Just back from a back session, really good work out. Felt surprisingly strong, and completed all sets at the weights I wanted.
It was noted that I had lost weight and that shoulders and arms were looking more defined already, so that felt good!
Over the weekend I decided the keto route wasnt for me, it was just leaving me feeling sapped and 'off'. Since Saturday I have been sticking to a traditional cutting diet as listed by James in one of the Muscletalk articles and I feel so much better on that. Obviously its very generic and isnt tailored to me in any way but its the right route for me until I get the professional prep route sorted.
 
Weight tonight was 14st 11lb which is a good improvement on my starting point of 16st 3lb - and more importantly my lifts are still progressing and increasing.
Could see separation in my quads tonight which wasnt there 10 days ago!

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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/16 07:29:00 (permalink)
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Well done Mark sounds like your on the right track!!
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/16 21:13:38 (permalink)
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Cheers. My one goal when I decided to enter the comp was to look justified in being there. Anything else would be a bonus. I wanted to hold my head up and feel like I had earnt my spot on the stage (I will point out here that at times I am my own worst critic). There have been times recently when I was umming and ahhing over whether to take the plunge that doubt crept in, but getting compliments in the gym last night and being able to see definition in my quads etc, its had such a positive effect on my mindset. Im now convinced I will have earnt my 60 seconds and that feels great (dont worry, I havent started asking people to dust down a spot on the mantlepiece yet lol!)

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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/17 10:09:51 (permalink)
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Cheers. My one goal when I decided to enter the comp was to look justified in being there. Anything else would be a bonus. I wanted to hold my head up and feel like I had earnt my spot on the stage (I will point out here that at times I am my own worst critic). There have been times recently when I was umming and ahhing over whether to take the plunge that doubt crept in, but getting compliments in the gym last night and being able to see definition in my quads etc, its had such a positive effect on my mindset. Im now convinced I will have earnt my 60 seconds and that feels great (dont worry, I havent started asking people to dust down a spot on the mantlepiece yet lol!)

Take it from me mate, being up there and feeling like you belong is one of the best feelings in the world.
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Re:mark4130 and his naive attempt to do a comp.... 2011/03/18 20:38:15 (permalink)
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Did shoulders tonight. Have had a funny pain in my shoulder for a couple of days - actually pain is the wrong word, is my like a dead spot when I lift my arm up or extend outwards. It doesnt hurt, theres just a point where it feels "dead" and when I move past it, its fine.
Took this into account and dropped all weights tonight and really concentrated on hitting 12-15 reps with as strict form as I could do. It didnt hurt at any point but I think going any heavier would maybe have triggered pain. And 15 reps with strict form still gave me really good pumps!
Followed this with 40 mins of good cardio. Have been a good boy and not missed a single cardio session, even though I had a 45 minute walk home from work in heavy rain before I went to the gym!
Plan for the weekend is bis and tris tomorrow, weigh myself and then take Sunday off (but not from cardio!!)

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