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2006/07/07 21:03:25 (permalink)

milk thistle

im currently in the the middle of my cycle which is
week 1-4 30mg dbol ed
week 1-8 500mg test e pw
week 1-6 400mg deca pw
i started milk thistle from day 1 at 1000mg pd.
how long do i take it for eg (4 week/up to pct)
any help would be great
thanks
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    RE: milk thistle 2006/07/07 21:18:25 (permalink)
    jst while running dbol mate
    also 1g is not enough imo
    2-3g per day
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    RE: milk thistle 2006/07/07 22:45:11 (permalink)
    Powerhouse, do you really think 2-3g is necessary? Not doubting it but seems a bit much? I spoke to a gp who is a friend of mine and he says you should avoid high dosages of medicines which have not been medically trialed regardless of whether they are herbal or not. He used glucosamine as the example and did admit that while it does produce very good results,that there is no way of knowing what damage it may be doing long term as its not been trialed.

    I realise being a gp he will only deal with drugs which are trialed. But dont you think this is a fair point?

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    RE: milk thistle 2006/07/07 23:00:17 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: irishbeast

    Powerhouse, do you really think 2-3g is necessary?


    My GNC Milk Thistle is 200mcg per capsule and it states 'DO NOT EXCEED MORE THAN 3 CAPSULES DAILY'

    I'm taking 1200mcg for 30mg ED of D/Bol and I apply the same logic as per vitamins i.e. Vitamins dosages are ok for the average cat..... but we aren't average.

    Not sure I'd go above 1200mcg but is MT as liver-toxic as D/Bol ? Not bloody likely
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    RE: milk thistle 2006/07/07 23:06:48 (permalink)
    i dnt rate milk thistle at all so my advice was coming for observation
    so yes i am wrong in doing so
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    RE: milk thistle 2006/07/07 23:08:33 (permalink)

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    ORIGINAL: irishbeast

    Powerhouse, do you really think 2-3g is necessary?


    My GNC Milk Thistle is 200mcg per capsule and it states 'DO NOT EXCEED MORE THAN 3 CAPSULES DAILY'

    I'm taking 1200mcg for 30mg ED of D/Bol and I apply the same logic as per vitamins i.e. Vitamins dosages are ok for the average cat..... but we aren't average.

    Not sure I'd go above 1200mcg but is MT as liver-toxic as D/Bol ? Not bloody likely


    MT will nt be toxic but yes it will stress the liver
    alot ov foods also stress the liver etc
    oral steroids are mostly 17aa and toxic to a certain degree
    the liver is a very clever organ and is under stress day after day
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    RE: milk thistle 2006/07/07 23:24:42 (permalink)
    If your lucky enough to be a tea totaler then your liver will repair itself. As said by powerhouse it is a very clever organ. Don't quote me on this but I think the timescale is about 3 months to make a decent recovery. Im saying this because I knwo somebody who drank evry heavily to the point that hiis liver was damaged, and the doctor told him to go dry and come back in 3 months to see if it had repaired.

    Now im not saying for a a minute that it will repair itself to the condition it was when you were 16 but it will make a massive recovery.

    Been dry for 2 weeks now!!! I don't miss the actual alcohol itself, but the social atmosphere and the laughs we have. I tend not to go out when im on a detox. Not because I cant have a good time without it, but the price of soft drinks is silly now. Will still spend about £40-50 by the time I've paid for cabs, bought a few mates drinks etc. Im not bothered about spending loads ona boozy night but for soft drinks is insane!!

    Anyway not to digress, anyone else got views on the milk thistle/liver debate?

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