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2004/02/20 01:19:18 (permalink)
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muscular endurance/strength

am getting stronger but wondering about endurance.

say i have to hold something at face level, like lifting a sofa or something while someone looks for something underneath, after a short while the shoulders start burning up.
or just simple painting a fence = fatigued/tired muscle fairly quickly

does this diminish with strength increase or is it resolved by a different type of training?

would like to have real world strength.

cheers
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/20 09:22:10 (permalink)
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    Why not introducee some GPP into your routine. Have a look at elitefts.com

    I did some tyre flips on Monday. It felt like a 140kg deadlift and 80kg press so i did it 20 times. Excellant all over workout and I could feel it in my forearms for days.
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/20 13:43:55 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by the block

    am getting stronger but wondering about endurance.

    say i have to hold something at face level, like lifting a sofa or something while someone looks for something underneath, after a short while the shoulders start burning up.
    or just simple painting a fence = fatigued/tired muscle fairly quickly

    does this diminish with strength increase or is it resolved by a different type of training?

    would like to have real world strength.

    cheers



    It probably won't reduce with increased strength much, if at all. You need to train strength endurance separatly. Endurance training is mostly about lactic tolerance (improving capillarization being the other main factor). Once a week would be ample as endurance is really easy to develop. The best time is probably at the end of a training week before a day off to allow time to remove any lactic acid.

    You're not really gonna be gaining any strength so just go for as much lactic as possible. I normally do depletion excercises like push-ups as many as possible (40ish) 1min break as many as possible (20ish) 1min break as many as possible (15ish). Just select multi joint excercises you can get 30-50 reps in the first set.
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/20 14:19:17 (permalink)
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    any calesthenics will buid muscular endurance. so circuit training will help. so to would GPP [sled dragging etc etc]
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/29 02:56:58 (permalink)
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    cheers. any gym exercises that i could do instead? e.g. bench etc... and what are calesthenics?
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/29 10:50:52 (permalink)
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    musclaur endurance could be built by doing any compound exersize with a lighter weight for high [20+ at least] reps. calesthenics are boyweight exersizes, like pressups.
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/29 14:53:16 (permalink)
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    Isn't muscular endurance a result of limit strength?

    I mean for example if there was a guy that just lifted heavy all the time on the bench press and a guy that only lifted in the 20 rep range.

    All other things being equal who would lift the most weight at 20 reps if they tried? I would say that guy who trains heavy all the time.

    What do others think? Am I wrong?
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/29 15:26:35 (permalink)
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    not sure... becuse that way if you could out bench csomeone, it wouold pretty much follow that you could do more presups than them, bodyweight etc being the same. which isn't always the case.
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/29 15:32:51 (permalink)
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    Don't forget that body is very specific at getting good at what you are doing.

    How about if someone did low rep weighted pushups versus someone who did only 20 rep pushups. Who would your money be on to press up most weight for 20 reps?
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/29 15:40:48 (permalink)
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    but thats a test of strength, not endurance. because your still going for maximal weight, the first guy would win.

    a test of endurance would be

    guy#1 - does low rep weighted pressups, 3x10 with most weight possible
    guy#2 - does high rep un weighted pushups, 3xMAX with no weight

    then see who can do the most unweighted in one stright set?
    my money, guy#2
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/29 15:43:53 (permalink)
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    The 20 rep range is considered muscle endurance isn't it?

    Between guy number 1 and 2 you mentioned I have no idea. Maybe your right. Opinions every one?
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    RE: muscular endurance/strength 2004/02/29 15:49:04 (permalink)
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    quote:
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    The 20 rep range is considered muscle endurance isn't it?



    well, yes, and no. 20 reps is certainly sub-optimal for hypertrophy and will yeild little or no strength, but i wouldn't say 20 pushups is having good endurance, and i wouldn't of thought you could build endurance by doing say 5x20 better than doing 2x50 or even 1x100?
    thoughts?
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