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must read-steroids/success/downfall

Hey Everyone,

I have come back after a long time.I had made some posts earlier and thanks to the advice of all you guys esp. JAMS,I started my first cycle.
10 weeks
Test E 500mg ew
Porviron 25mg daily
then PCT.

Everything went great,the test e kicked in after nearly 5 weeks.I started to make amazing gains.Everyone in the gym would watch me carry some of the heaviest weights in my gym and I really enjoyed all that attention,well who the hell doesnt!!!! I had gained 12kgs over the last 10 weeks!!!!And I really doubt there was much water retention since I was on porviron as well.

After my last shot I had taken a 1 week break since I started getting severe cramps in my arms and around my tummy,
I used to only jab my backside since that area seemed the least painful,all I did was jab alternate cheeks.I once jabbed my quad and couldnt walk the next day,.
Everything was fine till now,untill I made this trip to a village 2000kms from my city where only veg food was available and I DO NOT eat veg at all.I had started my PCT the first day of this trip.This trip was for 6 days and I had absolutely no exercise or good food during this period.From 5 meals a day I had to manage with barely 2 meals a day.

By the time I returned home I lost 7 Kgs!!!!!!
To make things worse I fell sick because of the climate change and ended up losin another 4 kgs!!!!

So in a span of just 20 days i lost 11 kgs!!! I was shattered,crying every freakin day,from looking in the mirror every min, I stopped looking at the mirror for days.I felt sick looking at my body,I was totally demoralised,


Here are my results before the cycle.after 10 weeks of the cycle and 22 days after my last shot.All measurements r in inches.


Before the cycle After 10 weeks NOW
Neck 16 18.3 17.5
Chest 40 43 41
Biceps 15.5 16.2 15.8
Forearms 11.8 12.5 12
Wrist 7.1 7.5 6.8
Waist 35 35 34
Quads 21.8 23.5 22.5
Calves 14.6 16 14.5


Imagine how I feel now,losign almost everything that I gained.But yeah my muscles do look very hard.

I hope no one makes such a stupid mistake like me again,though I had no choice but to go for the trip.
Sorry for such a long post,I know it gets boring but I need help.Big time.I havent visited the gym for the last two months now.
I had gone 2 weeks back and the way everyone looked at me .....so shocked..made me feel even more sick....

What do I do now?









PuMpiNG IrON
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    pmrulez
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/17 13:50:54 (permalink)
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    Now I am trying to gain all that mass back with a good diet and supplements but I just dont have that rush of energy now...I know only steroids can give me that power.
    I used to life 120 kgs bench press,now I can barely life 70kg
    100lb bicep curl.Now I cant even lift 50.
    I am goin to go mad this way.This is really bad.Is it always this way after a steroid cycle.I mean does power reduce so significantly so have things gone exceptionally wrong with me?

    I have started gymming 3 days back and am contemplating starting another cycle.Its been 2 whole month from the time I popped my last PCT tab.Is it safe to start another cycle now?
    I have only 6 weeks to myself after which I would not have access to steroids since i'll be goin to study in europe and would be totally new there.

    I weigh 195 pounds now (gained 4 pounds the last 10 days)

    I plan 1- 6 week test eth. 500mg
    1-4 week dianabol 30mg
    ED porviron 25mg (for vascularity and water retention)

    I'll start my PCT in Europe since carryin those tabs wont be difficult.
    Firstly I would like to know is this a GOOD IDEA?
    Should I consider this cycle.

    What abt sides?
    Also what would be the PCT for this cycle?

    Thanks again.....Would appreciate any help

    PuMpiNG IrON
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/17 13:51:38 (permalink)
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    i wish i had time to read and comment bro
    i hope all works well for u and im sure ppl will comment soon
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/17 14:10:06 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: pmrulez

    Hey Everyone,

    I have come back after a long time.I had made some posts earlier and thanks to the advice of all you guys esp. JAMS,I started my first cycle.
    10 weeks
    Test E 500mg ew
    Porviron 25mg daily
    then PCT.

    Everything went great,the test e kicked in after nearly 5 weeks.I started to make amazing gains.Everyone in the gym would watch me carry some of the heaviest weights in my gym and I really enjoyed all that attention,well who the hell doesnt!!!! I had gained 12kgs over the last 10 weeks!!!!And I really doubt there was much water retention since I was on porviron as well.

    After my last shot I had taken a 1 week break since I started getting severe cramps in my arms and around my tummy,
    I used to only jab my backside since that area seemed the least painful,all I did was jab alternate cheeks.I once jabbed my quad and couldnt walk the next day,.
    Everything was fine till now,untill I made this trip to a village 2000kms from my city where only veg food was available and I DO NOT eat veg at all.I had started my PCT the first day of this trip.This trip was for 6 days and I had absolutely no exercise or good food during this period.From 5 meals a day I had to manage with barely 2 meals a day.

    By the time I returned home I lost 7 Kgs!!!!!!
    To make things worse I fell sick because of the climate change and ended up losin another 4 kgs!!!!

    So in a span of just 20 days i lost 11 kgs!!! I was shattered,crying every freakin day,from looking in the mirror every min, I stopped looking at the mirror for days.I felt sick looking at my body,I was totally demoralised,


    Here are my results before the cycle.after 10 weeks of the cycle and 22 days after my last shot.All measurements r in inches.


    Before the cycle After 10 weeks NOW
    Neck 16 18.3 17.5
    Chest 40 43 41
    Biceps 15.5 16.2 15.8
    Forearms 11.8 12.5 12
    Wrist 7.1 7.5 6.8
    Waist 35 35 34
    Quads 21.8 23.5 22.5
    Calves 14.6 16 14.5


    Imagine how I feel now,losign almost everything that I gained.But yeah my muscles do look very hard.

    I hope no one makes such a stupid mistake like me again,though I had no choice but to go for the trip.
    Sorry for such a long post,I know it gets boring but I need help.Big time.I havent visited the gym for the last two months now.
    I had gone 2 weeks back and the way everyone looked at me .....so shocked..made me feel even more sick....

    What do I do now?










    dnt let it get u down
    have some time off and get your diet sorted then plan ahead for future cycles along with pct
    the muscle is a great thing and remembers where it has been and what it has done previous
    head up and crack on
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/17 14:14:05 (permalink)
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    You'll be fine fella don't worry about it.

    I know it sucks, trust me. But it's not the end of the world. Take it as experience, move on get your self started and like powerhouse said - crack on.
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/17 23:24:36 (permalink)
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    Thanks alot for the moral boosting advice.
    So when shoudl I start my cycle?

    PuMpiNG IrON
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/18 00:31:32 (permalink)
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    If you only have 6 weeks I would suggest going with something else like test prop. Its much faster acting and better for short cycles. Or the alternative just wait til you get to europe and do another cycle of test enan when you have everything sorted out. The best answer I can give you is to just keep things as they are go to the gym as usual, work hard, and eat right and wait til you feel good about yourself and everything is all sorted out to do another cycle. Steroids aren't the answer they are the icing on the cake and you need to have a great foundation down to even think about doing another cycle otherwise it will all happen again.
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/18 00:53:45 (permalink)
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    losing all your gains was down to a bad time after all your hard work - so many people do a cycle make great gains then forget that you have to keep on the hard lifting etc. Too many people (I own a gym so I've seen it!!) do a lot of har dwork during a cycle then think they dont have to train!!

    REMEMBER before you did a cycle you probably got in good shape naturally but you had top keep training hard at the gym to reach that position in the first place. You CANNOT expect to keep gains post cycle if you stop training and your diet is crappy.

    Just think thast this time you're going to do your cycle , look and feel good again and this time YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE all that hard work in the gym post cycle so you maintain the physique YOU have created.

    Keep that chin up and do what everyone has done - LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES

















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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/18 05:00:50 (permalink)
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    Why are you thinking about another cycle when you havent been in the gym for 2 months?
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/18 05:56:02 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: pmrulez

    Hey Everyone,

    I have come back after a long time.I had made some posts earlier and thanks to the advice of all you guys esp. JAMS,I started my first cycle.
    10 weeks
    Test E 500mg ew
    Porviron 25mg daily
    then PCT.

    Everything went great,the test e kicked in after nearly 5 weeks.I started to make amazing gains.Everyone in the gym would watch me carry some of the heaviest weights in my gym and I really enjoyed all that attention,well who the hell doesnt!!!! I had gained 12kgs over the last 10 weeks!!!!And I really doubt there was much water retention since I was on porviron as well.

    After my last shot I had taken a 1 week break since I started getting severe cramps in my arms and around my tummy,
    I used to only jab my backside since that area seemed the least painful,all I did was jab alternate cheeks.I once jabbed my quad and couldnt walk the next day,.
    Everything was fine till now,untill I made this trip to a village 2000kms from my city where only veg food was available and I DO NOT eat veg at all.I had started my PCT the first day of this trip.This trip was for 6 days and I had absolutely no exercise or good food during this period.From 5 meals a day I had to manage with barely 2 meals a day.

    By the time I returned home I lost 7 Kgs!!!!!!
    To make things worse I fell sick because of the climate change and ended up losin another 4 kgs!!!!

    So in a span of just 20 days i lost 11 kgs!!! I was shattered,crying every freakin day,from looking in the mirror every min, I stopped looking at the mirror for days.I felt sick looking at my body,I was totally demoralised,


    Here are my results before the cycle.after 10 weeks of the cycle and 22 days after my last shot.All measurements r in inches.


    Before the cycle After 10 weeks NOW
    Neck 16 18.3 17.5
    Chest 40 43 41
    Biceps 15.5 16.2 15.8
    Forearms 11.8 12.5 12
    Wrist 7.1 7.5 6.8
    Waist 35 35 34
    Quads 21.8 23.5 22.5
    Calves 14.6 16 14.5


    Imagine how I feel now,losign almost everything that I gained.But yeah my muscles do look very hard.

    I hope no one makes such a stupid mistake like me again,though I had no choice but to go for the trip.
    Sorry for such a long post,I know it gets boring but I need help.Big time.I havent visited the gym for the last two months now.
    I had gone 2 weeks back and the way everyone looked at me .....so shocked..made me feel even more sick....

    What do I do now?












    Well, What I think it could be, is that you had some diluted gear possibly. I know mexican made gear might say 300mg on th ebottle and youre only getting about 90 or so.

    What I would do, for ultimate gains would get you some Organon gear. My first cycle (before my mom found it,lol) lasted 3 weeks and I got HUGE off only that little of time.

    Get some organon SUSTANON, I had bigger gains off Sus than Enathate. Sus imo is superior.

    Try this cycle:

    Every 4 days 250 mg Sustanon
    Every week 300 mg Deca

    After every workout take L-Glutamine, Sleep like alo and get your cals,proteins and carbs. Start Creatine loading last week of cycle with some Clen ans some Solvens to get your natural tets back up. TRAIN JUST AS HARD PCT for at least 2-4 months before you let up as well to keep gains.

    Sus has 4 test in it. Its FAST acting and time released, I think that is why only 3 weeks worked for me so well. More than half of it is Prop. Its fastin fats out and you see results ALOT quicker. BUT it runs it course then its out. Every 4 days will keep you jacked up and test levels level the duration of the cycle. You did staright Test and it didnt exactly give you the results you wanted. Stack the Deca with it to maximize gains. If workouts are kept intense Deca gains seem to stay alittle better IMPO than Test from myself and friends.
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/18 11:12:39 (permalink)
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    Thanks alot for all those who have posted thier comments.Very helpful indeed.You are right Tylerhen,I wont start any cycle now,I'll first workout till I reach my natural peak and then only will I start my next cycle.
    So that should be within 2 months from now.

    Hey Tommy,thanks alot for the cycle,but many say to keep away from Deca and Sus has more sides.So is this cycle recommended?

    Every 4 days 250 mg Sustanon
    Every week 300 mg Deca

    I got my test e from a hospital so I doubt its not genuine and it was by Organon:)

    I guess you right Scooter,I should have been as serious with my workout after my cycle as I was during the cycle.

    I most probably will start my cycle in Europe.Does any one know how easily is gear available in Spain.?

    PuMpiNG IrON
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/18 21:07:56 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: pmrulez

    Thanks alot for all those who have posted thier comments.Very helpful indeed.You are right Tylerhen,I wont start any cycle now,I'll first workout till I reach my natural peak and then only will I start my next cycle.
    So that should be within 2 months from now.

    Hey Tommy,thanks alot for the cycle,but many say to keep away from Deca and Sus has more sides.So is this cycle recommended?

    Every 4 days 250 mg Sustanon
    Every week 300 mg Deca

    I got my test e from a hospital so I doubt its not genuine and it was by Organon:)

    I guess you right Scooter,I should have been as serious with my workout after my cycle as I was during the cycle.

    I most probably will start my cycle in Europe.Does any one know how easily is gear available in Spain.?




    I myself and my cousin and friends all used Sus and Deca just fine. I KNOW for a fact that when I used Enanthate , I had ALOT of water retention, My face got puffy. That never happened off any Sustanon.
    Sustanon imo is one of the best in terms of teh water retention problem.
    It does give you the acne just like any other test.

    Deca is one of the safest steroids, If not teh safest available. Any sides anyone is talking about ISNT from Deca. It has almost NO SIDES AT ALL. Th eonly time it wil aromatize is in EXTREME doses. You dont get acne from Deca. It doesnt give the "roid rage". Its better than staright TEst in the keeping gains department too.

    People say 500 mg of Sustanon or straight test is better. Personally I belive 250 weekly or in this case every 4 days with the stacking of Deca is the correct way to go. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU WILL HAVE LESS SIDES OF 250 MG SUS AND 300 DECA THAN YOU DID WITH 500 ENANTHATE! Go moderate on the Test and haevier on the Deca. Safer and I belive will give you what you need. I know alot of people who complained about Enathate expiernce. Sus and Deca like I said is superior.

    If you are worried about sides with the Sus and Deca youve already seen worse with the 500 mg Enanthate. Thats a promise.
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    RE: must read-steroids/success/downfall 2006/07/18 21:10:01 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: pmrulez

    Thanks alot for all those who have posted thier comments.Very helpful indeed.You are right Tylerhen,I wont start any cycle now,I'll first workout till I reach my natural peak and then only will I start my next cycle.
    So that should be within 2 months from now.

    Hey Tommy,thanks alot for the cycle,but many say to keep away from Deca and Sus has more sides.So is this cycle recommended?

    Every 4 days 250 mg Sustanon
    Every week 300 mg Deca

    I got my test e from a hospital so I doubt its not genuine and it was by Organon:)

    I guess you right Scooter,I should have been as serious with my workout after my cycle as I was during the cycle.

    I most probably will start my cycle in Europe.Does any one know how easily is gear available in Spain.?



    i didnt see teh part about getting gear in Spain. Email me at nyg160@hotmail.com and I can help you out. Cant do it on the board.
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