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my girlfriend's first cycle.help!

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2003/06/16 00:46:15 (permalink)

my girlfriend's first cycle.help!


My girlfriend wants to do her first cycle. We have heard that anavar is the best for no side affects like testerones for women. How much anavar and how often for how long should she take and would it be nice to finish it with clen? Or what suggestions does everyone have for a 1st cycle! She does not want to be huge just hard and maybe a little more mass. thanks for your help!
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/06/16 16:55:13 (permalink)
    First off, does you girlfriend train at the gym? Is her diet and excersise routine good? Those should be 100% first, before even starting taking anything, IMO. Yes, doing a cycle of clen/eca (2 weeks on, 2 weeks off) would also be a good idea.

    Anavar is probably your best bet for a first cycle! Juts keep the dosage real low, to steer clear of the sides. Start off with 5mg and then you can go up to 10mg, if everything is fine after the first week. This would be an 8 - 10 week cycle, which I have personally done and would definitely reccommend it to other females who are trying to minus the bf% and just define their muscles!

    Good luck and definitely keep us all posted!
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/06/16 17:23:31 (permalink)
    If she is contemplaing doing anavar then I would cycle clen and eca througout with the var.

    I've done var and I bumped it right up to 20 mg ED and never had any sides at all.

    Like Shorty says - she should make sure her diet and training are spot on.

    Has she ever done clen before... if not maybe she could try cycling that with eca as she can get some great results with it if tapered correctly and no worries about any sides.
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/06/16 20:03:37 (permalink)
    Great advice from the above MT sistas. Var is one of the safest bets for women but is still a big step for a wman to take. It may well be wise for her to start with clen and ECA and be guaranteed side effect free (from virilisation anyway) and then maybe look at var as 'the next step'.

    Female doses for Var do vary as suggested, from as little as 5 to 20mg and higher - between 5-20mg would be ample particularly if sides are a concern. Tapering the dose up to a tollerable level is wise for women, the good news is that Var is fast acting and if she notices changes she doesn't like, she can stop and have it out of her system very quickly.

    Wish you both luck (it's always a bit un-nerving for the bloke too).

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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/06/17 00:46:53 (permalink)
    thanks for the help. Now about the diet she should be eating like me such as protien powders. Lots of grilled meat and eating 6 times a day and keep the carbs down. Or should she start eating diffrintly than me. I try to take in 300 grams of protien a day. She is trying to consume 200 grams and staying away from the carbs sugars and throwing in small amounts of fat. I may have got her going in the wrong direction? What is a good diet for a women if I am all wrong for her. I do understand womens bodies are different?
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/06/17 06:45:30 (permalink)
    As far as I know - diet is not my thing - she should be eating clean, especially if she is thinking of the var. High protein etc etc.

    Ideally she should aim to get most of her nutrients from actual food, but obviously one or two protien shakes a day will help bump her protien intake.

    Just out of interest what is her training routine like if you would like to post it up.
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/06/17 22:18:56 (permalink)
    Good diet advice from above ... basically I was always taught, don't know if this is right or wrong, so correct me please if I am wrong, double her body weight as an approx for protein intake. That would be what you are aiming for. Also a big key in this would be A LOT OF WATER. Probably 2 - 3 liters a day would be a good idea.

    Protein shakes, and bars for snacks in between meals are a great way of boosting up one's protein intake
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/05 19:30:19 (permalink)
    Can anavar cause women to lose their sex drive and become moody and irritable like men do on steroids? If so, how long will anavar stay in a womans system or how long should it take before their hormones level out? And is there anything to take to help them level out or get the sex drive back?
    Any help would be great!!!
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/05 19:46:11 (permalink)
    Her sex drive will increase (unless the dose is to low to have any efect on her) I doubt that she would notice much in the way of psychological effects, she may feel a little more confident & assertive?
    The recovery issues are different for women, she probably would not have any problems, and there is no need to take anything, to getr back to normal. Depending on the dose, taking AS would suppress her menstrual cycle, but that should come back of its own accord.
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/05 20:03:18 (permalink)
    Medusa, I guess I need ed to know because my girlfriend is almost done with her cycle and I have noticed that lately her sex drive is gone and she loves sex normally. She has gotten real bitchy in the last 2 weeks and short and irritable. She is usually very sweet and loves to be intimate all day long (not talking about sex, just intimate) She came to me yesterday without me saying anything and told me she saw herself doing all the things I just described and she hated it and wanted to stop the var because she wanted to be herself again....can you offer any explanation to why this has happened? thanks!!
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/05 20:18:59 (permalink)
    It could be related to general hormonal disturbances, as in PMT type things? She would perhaps be more prone to that if she sufers with pmt anyway?
    I've heard of women feeling depressed after coming of steroids, which suggests that thier own natural test has been supressed, but I don't know what can be done to bring it back on line.
    Did she stop menstruating whilst on the var?
    If she wats to stop it then she should! it will be out of her system quickly, but i couldnt say how long it will be befor e her ownn hormones ae back to normal, everyone is different.
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/05 20:45:49 (permalink)
    What is PMT? She has been off for 2 days. She did stop menstuating while on var. I just want the old her to come back....she has never had a low sex drive and it seemed too cooincidental with her cycle almost over. She started her cycle with 2 pills a day then went to 3 pills a day and was droppng to 2 pills a day to wheen herself off and that is when I started noticing a difference in her. So I am probably looking at a month or so of her being like this? thanks!!
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/11 12:41:11 (permalink)
    I'm on my first cycle (other than prohormones) and I am lost as to amounts. I have HGH 200 IUs, androgel and teslac. All legal through a company. I've had good gains with prohormones but they are lost quickly. My diet is good (6 meals with 250 grams of protein). I do regular cardio and weights (4-5 times a week). I'm looking for good gains but being a woman I'm not sure about the best dosage. In general I follow their instructions but I know the results will be limited. Thank you for your help. Cathy
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/11 15:46:47 (permalink)
    Cat, hi

    This is what I know about HGH as it applies to women, although this is just from reading on forums so dont take it as medical fact:

    Women should take 1-2 ius daily for AT LEAST four months. The first month will not be good as you may bloat A LOT, and suffer tiredness and soreness in the joints.

    2nd month gets better, some water retention reduction. But its not until month 4 you see dramatic changes in the body in terms of fat loss and increased lean mass. This is not a cheap cycle as I expect you know. But women that have tried this claim that the results are dramatic.

    I dont know anything about androgel or teslac, cant help you there.

    let us know how you get on.

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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/12 17:19:13 (permalink)
    Thanks for you input Liz. Great site. Cathy
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/13 11:54:08 (permalink)
    I was thinking about doing my first cycle, I train 6 times a week and eat high protein, low carb, low fat etc. but still have a little fat on the bum and tops of the thighs so have decided to try clen/ECA first to get rid of that last bit of fat.

    Decided to do it this way as I read that I'll just build muscle on top of the fat that is already there and the fat wont go.

    Keep us updated on how your girlfriend gets on with Anvar as thats what I'd probably go for.
    Good luck to her!
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/18 19:38:31 (permalink)
    Mel, if you did decide to go for the Var cycle, running it with a clen/eca stack at the same time is fantastic for fat burning
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/18 21:30:29 (permalink)
    Yes, var is reckoned to have appetite suppressant qualities.
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    RE: my girlfriend's first cycle.help! 2003/09/19 13:38:49 (permalink)
    I didnt notice any difference in my appetite but I was training particularly hard at the time so therefore ate more, but properly
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