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not sure what to use instead of deca,

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2011/03/14 16:46:54 (permalink)

not sure what to use instead of deca,

ina bit of a pickle, im currently doin my pct from a previous sust and deca cycle, had realy good gains but the shame is all this stuff im reading about deca being a bitch to recover from..
guys saying some people dont recover properly for half a year, sometimes longer its bad enough me loosing my hairline off the test as im only 23 but messing about with my sexdrive can **** right off lol
i've already got 3 10ml vials of rohm test 400 and 3 rohm deca and want to do another cycle but is there anything that will give me the same results as deca without shutting me down as much? i've heard about tren e and stuff but i kinda like the puffy look deca gives me.

or should i just get rid of my gear and keep my balls, sex drive and hairline.. ? confused what i could use instead.
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    Valley Fitness
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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 17:35:16 (permalink)
    dbol make you hold water in a similar fashion.

    deca is hard to recover from but then so is tren..
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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 17:49:40 (permalink)
    Eq possable !
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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 18:09:00 (permalink)
     
     
    As for recovery i've never found deca harder to recover from than other
    aas, this is of course personal.
     
    Sex drive?, if you find you have issues with a lack of libido then run some prov @
    50 mg's ed this sort that prob.
     
    I find hcg also helps me recover quicker,so i run this towards the end of my cycle
    stopping 1 week before pct commences.
     
    What you will find however, is the more effect the med/meds are the more
    potential sides there are,so it's just a matter of trying to reduce them and
    or being able to live with them.

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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 18:28:10 (permalink)
    hi evo, didnt you do much research before your TnD cycle??  was this your 1st cycle.
    if your asking for advice then the 1st thging id say is dont do tren yet
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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 18:39:57 (permalink)
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    post edited by im sparticus - 2011/03/14 19:28:47
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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 19:05:07 (permalink)
     no this isnt my first cycle i've done about 4 now, i normally kick start each cycle with d bol and have read hundreds of times about guys getting shut down off deca bad, i always use hcg on cycle..
    to be honest i havn't even finished my pct from my last cycle yet to see how bad i am shutdown, just seems like reading all these problems with sex drive through steroids has freaked me out a bit latley.
    @ silent rep, would that 50mg ed be through cycle or just during pct, i dont realy have problems whilst on the gear due to me using hcg, cant keep the fukin thing down lol

    also whats eq all about? heard a lot of talk about it but never realy considered to actualy use.
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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 19:28:16 (permalink)

    Here :-

    Proviron (Mesterolone)
    Proviron is an anabolic steroid with little direct anabolic properties. It has good binding qualities with the androgen receptor, but most never reaches the androgen receptor in muscle tissue, as it is enzymatically converted to diol. It is however effective as an anti-aromatase, and is believed to also act in an anti-oestrogenic manner due to certain oestrogen receptor down-regulation, making it a very effective compound for preventing gyno. Proviron also helps restore sexual dysfunctions caused by steroid cycling, helping to increase sexual desire as a result of the increased androgen levels, a downside can be permanent erections in some males which at first may sound fantastic but can be extremely painful, in which case the dose should be lowered or discontinued. Proviron will also help reduce excess bloating caused by water retention.
    Proviron can be used effectively throughout clomid therapy as it displays no signs of inhibiting the HPTA (see article 'Clomid and HCG'), and is helpful in keeping androgen levels elevated until natural testosterone production is restored correctly. The androgenic activity is also responsible for the distinct hardening of muscles and is one reason it is often favoured leading up to competitions.
    Dosing
    Proviron is supplied in 25mg tablets.
    Usual dose is between 25 to 100mg/day, in most cases 25 to 50mg/day is sufficient. Dose is best split am and pm.
     
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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 19:30:27 (permalink)

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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 20:10:51 (permalink)
    thanks for them mate, appreciated just one more thing, says my pct was

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 20/20/20/20
    would i drop the nolva to use the proviron or wack say 50mg ed on top of that for the full pct?

    thanks again.
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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 20:23:43 (permalink)


    I'd keep your normal pct and add 25 m'g ed and see how things go,
    no point in just throwing meds in for the sake of it,start low and increase
    as/if necessary.
    It's allways gonna be a learning curve as we all respond differently.

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    Re:not sure what to use instead of deca, 2011/03/14 20:57:46 (permalink)
    Im a fan of EQ you get steady lean gains without the watery bloated look from Deca. Also EQ is easier to recover from than Deca. Good for appetite, great for vascular lean gains with huge pumps.

    I also think you keep your gains better with EQ compared to Deca. Eq is also great for cardio.

    The only downside is you need about 600 - 800 mg a week and you need to run for a min of 12 weeks 16 weeks is even better. The longer the better with EQ.

    Not every one likes EQ but it may be worth a try.

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