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2008/05/13 20:17:37 (permalink)
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on a cv?

is there any need or point in putting a date of birth?

my sister thinks there is, I don't, especially with all the new anti-ageist things recently


any help appreciated ta

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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 20:23:29 (permalink)
    I always put it. They need it sometimes to take in to account you driving on works insurance etc
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 20:23:33 (permalink)
    Standard practice on a cv. and although there is all this anti ageism stuff i think employers still do look at it.
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 20:29:30 (permalink)
    What was on that CV I sent you sometime ago. Follow that
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 20:30:17 (permalink)
    Although ageism is now very wrong - employers tend to look at age as part of fitting someone into a role, ie. if it was a team of sales people all aged 20-30 and 59yr old man may be uncomfortable and therefore quit out the job early. Also simple things like wages - more experince/older the better wages....The role may require a go getter of a young thang, therefore a 72 year old woman, isnt going to cut it...

    So I would always stick a DOB on as you want a job that is suitable for you as much as an employer wants someone who is suitable for them....

     
     
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 20:43:41 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: kitty

    What was on that CV I sent you sometime ago. Follow that



    oh yeah, sorry, I never said thanks for that, so thanks, thanks to the husband too

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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 20:44:29 (permalink)
    right cheers, looks like it's staying then, I'll still tell her I was right though

    I wish I was more attractive like Dagless.
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 20:46:46 (permalink)

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    right cheers, looks like it's staying then, I'll still tell her I was right though


    Woman are always right


     
     
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 20:48:07 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Clair1111


    ORIGINAL: tuc biscuit

    right cheers, looks like it's staying then, I'll still tell her I was right though


    Woman are always right

    lol, as ably demonstated by the grammar here




    I wish I was more attractive like Dagless.
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:02:24 (permalink)
    no it doesnt need to be on.

    i've sent my cv off to be assessed by loads of recruitment consultants (all mates) to check it for me all said it doesnt need to be on.

    also taken it to 3 different careers advisors, all said to take it off. if a company is not allowed to use age as reason to not give you a job then surely it doesnt need to be on?
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:03:04 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: tuc biscuit


    ORIGINAL: Clair1111


    ORIGINAL: tuc biscuit

    right cheers, looks like it's staying then, I'll still tell her I was right though


    Woman are always right

    lol, as ably demonstated by the grammar here







    If we are going to get picky - you missed a full stop out

     
     
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:09:53 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Big D

    no it doesnt need to be on.

    i've sent my cv off to be assessed by loads of recruitment consultants (all mates) to check it for me all said it doesnt need to be on.

    also taken it to 3 different careers advisors, all said to take it off. if a company is not allowed to use age as reason to not give you a job then surely it doesnt need to be on?


    Really!!!

    I find that quite shocking!! As someone who reads a million CV's all the time, it annoys me if I dont have age on there as it's feels as though someone is trying to make life difficult, its also pointless not giving all information as it is not rocket science to work out someones age from graduation dates and employment history!! So why make an employers life difficult?

    Like I said earlier - recruitment is as much about your suitability for a job as it is an employers desire - therefore I would rather they had all the facts and if I wasnt suitable, they didnt waste my time!!

     
     
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:14:38 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Clair1111

    Although ageism is now very wrong - employers tend to look at age as part of fitting someone into a role, ie. if it was a team of sales people all aged 20-30 and 59yr old man may be uncomfortable and therefore quit out the job early. Also simple things like wages - more experince/older the better wages....The role may require a go getter of a young thang, therefore a 72 year old woman, isnt going to cut it...


    I think these kinds of prejudices are the very reason it's suggested that applicants don't put their date of birth on CVs.

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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:16:59 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: JohnKerr2


    ORIGINAL: Clair1111

    Although ageism is now very wrong - employers tend to look at age as part of fitting someone into a role, ie. if it was a team of sales people all aged 20-30 and 59yr old man may be uncomfortable and therefore quit out the job early. Also simple things like wages - more experince/older the better wages....The role may require a go getter of a young thang, therefore a 72 year old woman, isnt going to cut it...


    I think these kinds of prejudices are the very reason it's suggested that applicants don't put their date of birth on CVs.


    So you would want to be employed into a role that isnt suitable for you and possibly miss out on positions that are suitable to you??? Bizarre

     
     
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:18:11 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: tuc biscuit


    ORIGINAL: kitty

    What was on that CV I sent you sometime ago. Follow that



    oh yeah, sorry, I never said thanks for that, so thanks, thanks to the husband too


    No worries
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:20:51 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Clair1111


    ORIGINAL: JohnKerr2


    ORIGINAL: Clair1111

    Although ageism is now very wrong - employers tend to look at age as part of fitting someone into a role, ie. if it was a team of sales people all aged 20-30 and 59yr old man may be uncomfortable and therefore quit out the job early. Also simple things like wages - more experince/older the better wages....The role may require a go getter of a young thang, therefore a 72 year old woman, isnt going to cut it...


    I think these kinds of prejudices are the very reason it's suggested that applicants don't put their date of birth on CVs.


    So you would want to be employed into a role that isnt suitable for you and possibly miss out on positions that are suitable to you??? Bizarre


    Who's to say that a 59 year old man couldn't be a fantastic member of your sales team? Why should he be judged unsuitable simply because of his age?
    post edited by JohnKerr2 - 2008/05/13 21:21:19

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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:21:00 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Clair1111


    ORIGINAL: JohnKerr2


    ORIGINAL: Clair1111

    Although ageism is now very wrong - employers tend to look at age as part of fitting someone into a role, ie. if it was a team of sales people all aged 20-30 and 59yr old man may be uncomfortable and therefore quit out the job early. Also simple things like wages - more experince/older the better wages....The role may require a go getter of a young thang, therefore a 72 year old woman, isnt going to cut it...


    I think these kinds of prejudices are the very reason it's suggested that applicants don't put their date of birth on CVs.


    So you would want to be employed into a role that isnt suitable for you and possibly miss out on positions that are suitable to you??? Bizarre


    What does age have with suitabilty?

      




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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:22:00 (permalink)
    Nope, cant say Ive seen adding DOB as standard practice for a CV.

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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:25:21 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Clair1111


    ORIGINAL: Big D

    no it doesnt need to be on.

    i've sent my cv off to be assessed by loads of recruitment consultants (all mates) to check it for me all said it doesnt need to be on.

    also taken it to 3 different careers advisors, all said to take it off. if a company is not allowed to use age as reason to not give you a job then surely it doesnt need to be on?


    Really!!!

    I find that quite shocking!! As someone who reads a million CV's all the time, it annoys me if I dont have age on there as it's feels as though someone is trying to make life difficult, its also pointless not giving all information as it is not rocket science to work out someones age from graduation dates and employment history!! So why make an employers life difficult?

    Like I said earlier - recruitment is as much about your suitability for a job as it is an employers desire - therefore I would rather they had all the facts and if I wasnt suitable, they didnt waste my time!!



    i can only go on what i've been told by those that are supposedly in the know, like i say their point of view is that if its illegal for a company to use your age as a reason not to give you the job then why does it need to be on?

    and not everyone is a clear cut case, i dont see why a company would want to work out someone's age from graduation/employment history, its illegal to discriminate based upon age so an irrelevant element on a cv.

    as for wasting my time, well surely i wouldnt be wasting my own time by applying for a job i didnt want.

    i've not got it on mine, and its proven not to be important at all even though i'm 28 and applying for jobs at graduate trainee level.
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    RE: on a cv? 2008/05/13 21:43:26 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: JohnKerr2

    Who's to say that a 59 year old man couldn't be a fantastic member of your sales team? Why should he be judged unsuitable simply because of his age?


    Not on age alone but it would be a consideration in the process! As mentioned the team are all quite young, they spend up to 3/4 weeks a time living together on the road in a coach in an industry aimed at under 30's - I need to feel comfortable that a 59 year old man could gel with them, I dont want him feeling uncomfortable because he doesnt want to go out clubbing to all hours etc....so for me as an employer, this is a consideration - sadly!

    The law actual states "an employer can tell an agency that having a characteristic related to age is a genuine occupational requirement for a particular job, the agency can rely on this statement as long as it is reasonable to do so. It would then be for the employer, not the agency, to show that age really is a genuine occupational requirement for the job."

    I'm not saying there is a right or wrong or I agree or disagree - but personally I think its easy to be 100% up front on a CV, I dont see if the age discrimination law functions why stating your age is in fact a problem...it works both ways surely!

    ORIGINAL: JohnKerr2

    i've not got it on mine, and its proven not to be important at all even though i'm 28 and applying for jobs at graduate trainee level.



    Prob because they worked it out from your history......my dad employes guys at 35+ at grad level so no it shouldnt be an issue in this area - and I totally agree!

    So why dont you put your DOB on then?
    post edited by Clair1111 - 2008/05/13 21:45:35

     
     
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