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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 12:19:46 (permalink)
Okay guys, if you read my post I did not suggest that you have to OHP to do handstand pressups.
I said 'I personally wouldn't start the progressions until I could Shoulder press my bodyweight'.
 
Like I said, I would want confidence that my 100kg is not going smash my head into the ground when my shoulders fail, not interested in it landing on my neck either. More power to you Diddums if you have no concerns about this. 
 
Yogis also lie on beds of nails and bury themselves in the ground, I wouldn't base my training progression on their practices. 
 
cu77en's link is a good tutorial for the planche school of handstand pushups (cantilevered style)
 
Also you say you're not doing any tricep or shoulder work or practicing handstands progressions? If you were training to increase you bench press wouldn't you also work on the ancillary muscles and movements?
 
It'd be good to get some answers to cu77en's questions

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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 13:12:20 (permalink)
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Okay guys, if you read my post I did not suggest that you have to OHP to do handstand pressups.
I said 'I personally wouldn't start the progressions until I could Shoulder press my bodyweight'.
 
Like I said, I would want confidence that my 100kg is not going smash my head into the ground when my shoulders fail, not interested in it landing on my neck either. More power to you Diddums if you have no concerns about this. 
 
Yogis also lie on beds of nails and bury themselves in the ground, I wouldn't base my training progression on their practices. 
 
cu77en's link is a good tutorial for the planche school of handstand pushups (cantilevered style)
 
Also you say you're not doing any tricep or shoulder work or practicing handstands progressions? If you were training to increase you bench press wouldn't you also work on the ancillary muscles and movements?
 
It'd be good to get some answers to cu77en's questions


I couldn't agree more. Diddums we are only trying to help you and we are only giving our opinion. If you can strict press your body weight then you should be able to rep a self balanced handstand push up. (It will definitely give you a lot of confidence)

Imagine doing one rep and thinking YES I'll do another, but while you try and lower yourself down you smash your face into the ground.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW MY ADVICE...

You could definitely work up to doing them with the advice in that video and it would be beneficial to have a training partner. They could stabalise your core slightly once you have progressed off the wall.

Right I want to be able to do muscle ups!!!!

I don't see the point in practising pull ups, that would be stupid...

Lat pulldowns to the lower chest... are you mad they wouldn't be benificial!!!

I have been doing reverse bicep curls in the squat rack how many reps should I be able to do before I can do a muscle up?

Listen!!! please don't give me any positive advice that could really help me obtain my goal.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE F@cking RIDICULOUS!
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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 13:18:45 (permalink)
Sorry tdogg wasnt trying to be awkward! Hope it didnt come across that way!

So far ive found I get enough warning that ive run out of strength to get back down!

https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m/tm.aspx?m=5490487y calisthenics. journal, come say hello - I need all the help I can get!
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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 13:39:40 (permalink)
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Sorry tdogg wasnt trying to be awkward! Hope it didnt come across that way!

So far ive found I get enough warning that ive run out of strength to get back down!

Hey Imsimon, 
It didn't come across awkward, I just kind of felt that my post was being misquoted/interpreted, so needed to straighten it out.
I have utmost respect for guys who practice calisthenics, I can manage a few strict muscle ups and about 5 seconds of front lever.
i did an extended period of body weight only training and the planche progressions alluded me.
Then the pull of heavy iron dragged me back to the world of grunting and slamming.
 
Is your calisthenics journal still live? I'll look it up

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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 13:44:24 (permalink)
cu77en

I have been doing reverse bicep curls in the squat rack how many reps should I be able to do before I can do a muscle up?

Listen!!! please don't give me any positive advice that could really help me obtain my goal.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE F@cking RIDICULOUS!



This 

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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 13:46:02 (permalink)
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Imsimon
Sorry tdogg wasnt trying to be awkward! Hope it didnt come across that way!

So far ive found I get enough warning that ive run out of strength to get back down!

Hey Imsimon, 
It didn't come across awkward, I just kind of felt that my post was being misquoted/interpreted, so needed to straighten it out.
I have utmost respect for guys who practice calisthenics, I can manage a few strict muscle ups and about 5 seconds of front lever.
i did an extended period of body weight only training and the planche progressions alluded me.
Then the pull of heavy iron dragged me back to the world of grunting and slamming.
 
Is your calisthenics journal still live? I'll look it up


muscle ups and front levers a long way off for me!

im about one month in to calisthenics after no ttaining for years check my progress journal in my signature!

https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m/tm.aspx?m=5490487y calisthenics. journal, come say hello - I need all the help I can get!
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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 14:01:11 (permalink)
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TDogg
Imsimon
Sorry tdogg wasnt trying to be awkward! Hope it didnt come across that way!

So far ive found I get enough warning that ive run out of strength to get back down!

Hey Imsimon, 
It didn't come across awkward, I just kind of felt that my post was being misquoted/interpreted, so needed to straighten it out.
I have utmost respect for guys who practice calisthenics, I can manage a few strict muscle ups and about 5 seconds of front lever.
i did an extended period of body weight only training and the planche progressions alluded me.
Then the pull of heavy iron dragged me back to the world of grunting and slamming.
 
Is your calisthenics journal still live? I'll look it up


muscle ups and front levers a long way off for me!

im about one month in to calisthenics after no ttaining for years check my progress journal in my signature!

Will do 

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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 14:17:39 (permalink)
this is the only place i have seen that has suggested that you start doing shoulder presses of your body weight with weights before doing handstand push ups but i guess i can try that as well
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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 14:35:23 (permalink)
just noticed that maybe you arent suggesting i do over head presses
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Re: pike push up 2017/04/16 14:46:23 (permalink)
diddums
just noticed that maybe you arent suggesting i do over head presses


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