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2003/12/08 21:02:59 (permalink)

poundage bullsh*t

this is a short post for anybody who is new to the boards or to training in general.
i also frequent a certain well known US board and someone recently posted a question of how much do you deadlift.

well i couldnt believe the amount of crap i was reading. most on there seem to dead somewhere between 550 and 700 from singles to sets of 5 reps. and all of bodyweights of between 160-220.

i have trained for many years now and i have had to fight every inch to get my dead poundage up. now there are genuine powerlifters out there who can lift the earth and weigh 10st but just like genetic freak bodybuilders they are not the norm. we are the norm those of us who struggle week in and week out to add 5lb to the bar.

so if your poundage is nothing like others posted dont worry..as long as you are giving max effort you make make gains.

like i said alot of pinnochio's on these boards
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    veganlifter
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/08 21:30:39 (permalink)
    some boards have that more than others. Here we have it sometimes maybe, but on a whole i think this b oard has been good what comes to people reporting their lifts - i'm guessing. I think it's because people are not judged as much by how much they lift but hbow much effort, work and dedication they put in. So it's generally a question of atmosphere of the board.
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/08 21:34:29 (permalink)


    i say nothing, everytime i have or ozz has quiered a lift or weight we get shot down in flames,,
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/08 21:52:38 (permalink)
    I just havent got a clue what weight i lift in pounds. Anyway, when i read somoething that says a 700lb bench i just assume its a typo and the decimal point is missing
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/08 22:06:03 (permalink)
    The American boards are all as bad as each other for this. You won't find a 16 year old on any of them that benches less than 270lbs. And all the 17 year old 6ft3 guys who weigh 200lbs have 17" arms. Really p!sses me off.
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/08 22:36:18 (permalink)
    Well, my dead is now at 3500 lbs, lol!
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/08 22:39:20 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by MikeyFive

    The American boards are all as bad as each other for this. You won't find a 16 year old on any of them that benches less than 270lbs. And all the 17 year old 6ft3 guys who weigh 200lbs have 17" arms. Really p!sses me off.

    If they dont back huge lifts up with photos take it with that pinch of salt, worry about what your doing not what others are

    This post isnt aimed at you M5 (you know the score more than i do)btw i just thought you post was very true to the point and typical of what we read these days everywhere
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/08 23:32:43 (permalink)
    Heheheheh... agree 100% with you fella - far to many pork pies on these boards when it comes to poundage.
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/08 23:44:38 (permalink)
    Agreed...
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 05:51:37 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by veganlifter

    some boards have that more than others. Here we have it sometimes maybe, but on a whole i think this b oard has been good what comes to people reporting their lifts - i'm guessing. I think it's because people are not judged as much by how much they lift but hbow much effort, work and dedication they put in. So it's generally a question of atmosphere of the board.



    that's encourgaging to someone who is new to the board and somewhat new to lifting. this is a pretty good place to be. btw, what are some of the links to these boards that you all are talking about?
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 11:14:06 (permalink)
    Last night, I went for a stroll past the rail yard and deadlifted a locomotive. Light, easy weight.
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 12:55:01 (permalink)
    quote:
    Last night, I went for a stroll past the rail yard and deadlifted a locomotive. Light, easy weight.

    Double-overhand grip? Im not impressed otherwise.
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 12:55:08 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by DerMalePhonkMann

    Last night, I went for a stroll past the rail yard and deadlifted a locomotive. Light, easy weight.




    Just the locamotive?? [:0]


    I did the whole train plus a mile and a half of track last week end.... one armed ! [:p]

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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 12:57:50 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by MikeyFive

    Double-overhand grip? Im not impressed otherwise.



    Mikey..

    Serious question...

    How much extra do you think you can deadlift with an opposing grip as opposed to an over or underhand grip??

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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 15:44:58 (permalink)
    Bump that, I want to know the logic over why the one hand forward one hand backward lift makes for more strength.
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 16:21:51 (permalink)
    totally agree m8 BUT theres a lot of bollocks been posted on MT so its not just the american boards! remember a recent post here about someone deadlifting 600lbs for reps at a bw of under 200 'just for fun'? of course u notice the people who get stroppy when theyre called out and promise pics somehow never seem to remember to post them. hmmm.

    hope you dont mean elite fitness becus most people there who claim big lifts post vids and pics and theres some champion powerlifters post there. but yes most people talk a load of ****e online
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 17:09:24 (permalink)
    quote:
    Originally posted by PauliE

    Bump that, I want to know the logic over why the one hand forward one hand backward lift makes for more strength.



    I was told It stops the bar rolling out of your grip

    I think it is right
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 17:24:12 (permalink)
    It seems (for me) to give a better hold on the bar, i guess im agreeing with Bengdogg, it stops the bar from slipping away. Trouble is i think its habit forming, i was getting up to weights, with the over/under grip, and if i try them with double overhand, its a hell of a lot harder.
    L.
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 17:48:13 (permalink)
    I totally agree bigmac. And those a**holes who post bs nonsense like that sometimes do more harm than good for some of the uninformed newbie weight lifters that read it.

    heh, I made up my mind not long after I started weight training that it doesn't matter how much the other guys can lift. I'm going to give 110% every time I go to the gym & that the gains will come when they come, period(with a little help from androgen).

    I remember one incident involving me & 2 other guys at the gym. The two guys were "flat" benching around 275+ pounds while at the time I was only doing around 65 pounds(3 sets of 11 reps).[V]
    Anyway, when they did their reps, they would arch their back & raise their butts off the bench to the point where they might as well be doing decline bench presses, all the while yelling & groaning really loud so that everyone in the gym could hear them. heh, I said to one of the guys, "Damn, if I tried that, I would probably break my back!"
    The other guy turned to me looking a little pissed and said, "That's why you should try lifting more f***ing weight!"

    heheh, I thought it wise to just laugh while thinking to myself, "F*** these arrogant bastards" and move on. Since that time(happened about 6 months ago), I've been able to bench 110 pounds 11 times for 3 sets & presently do 120x10/130x8/140x6/150x4.

    I could be wrong, but I think they're going to end up screwing up their backs if they keep on trying to bench press like that. heh, its a good thing I like to keep myself well informed & worry only about myself, otherwise they might have convinced me of doing some stupid sh** like that. [:p]
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    RE: poundage bullsh*t 2003/12/09 22:22:53 (permalink)
    quote:
    Mikey..

    Serious question...

    How much extra do you think you can deadlift with an opposing grip as opposed to an over or underhand grip??


    The difference for me is very little, because I work grip a lot. Probably only a difference of about 10 or 15kg at the moment.

    A mixed grip helps you because it stops the bar rolling out of your hands.
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