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2006/07/11 19:44:28 (permalink)

prop or var?

Right decided its deffinatly time to cut next cycle due to start mid august and have got it down to a 2 aas.

which do you think is better for cutting prop 150mg EOD or var 40mg ED?

im open to any other suggestion, what about adding tren to the prop??

help req want to start in 5 weeks and want it sorted out.

thanks guys

ps im prone to acne so avoiding aas that flare acne up would be good
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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/11 19:57:39 (permalink)
    Test prop and Tren are one of my favourite cycles for cutting.

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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/11 20:00:01 (permalink)
    how much tren would you run with 150mg eod of prop??

    dont want to lose much overall size but cut b/f, did you find you lost a lot of overall size?

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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/11 20:06:41 (permalink)
    id go with 75/100mg eod on the tren
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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/11 20:36:54 (permalink)
    I did 75/100 tren/prop and it worked well mate

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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/11 21:05:49 (permalink)
    thanks for that.

    did you mix them in same barrel?

    did you find you lost much overall size??

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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/11 21:12:27 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Wannabebigger

    thanks for that.

    did you mix them in same barrel?

    did you find you lost much overall size??

    Mix them in same barrel no problem, I never lose much size during cutting on this as it helps keep strength up nicely and I mostly just lose the excess bf that we don't want LOL

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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/11 23:13:08 (permalink)
    sure did

    infact it's better to mix in the same barell I found as it reduced chance of tren cough and takes sting out of prop

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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/12 11:26:45 (permalink)
    i tried to cut on prop and tren before, the tren helped with my strength so much it ended up kinda turning into a power lifting cycle, yeah i cleaned my diet up a bit and added some cardio but i think i ate too many carbs

    at the end of 9 weeks i was a 1lb lighter i think but i did get to pretty low bf (still had some fat on my hips and ass but from the waist up i looked ripped), id guess i dropped 6lb fat and gained 5lb muscle but those really are guesses

    one thing to mention though, i had a hard time recovering from the tren even after hcg, pct was awful, i felt like crying all the time and had no motivation to do anything

    why not do prop/var? or prop/winny?

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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/12 12:24:00 (permalink)
    that sound good kepping my strength up while cutting bodyfat.

    whats pct like med wise for this type of cycle??

    i hate pct anyway so having a bad one after good cycle is worth it to me.

    thanks guys for your replys well greatful

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    ORIGINAL: Wannabebigger

    thanks for that.

    did you mix them in same barrel?

    did you find you lost much overall size??

    Mix them in same barrel no problem, I never lose much size during cutting on this as it helps keep strength up nicely and I mostly just lose the excess bf that we don't want LOL

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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/12 12:25:05 (permalink)
    sure did what?? lose overall size??

    ORIGINAL: wiffers

    sure did

    infact it's better to mix in the same barell I found as it reduced chance of tren cough and takes sting out of prop


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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/12 12:28:30 (permalink)
    the strength side to tren sounds good.

    if i did prop/var or prop/winny i wouldnt get much strenght gain v's prop/tren cycle would i??


    ORIGINAL: Rossatron
    i tried to cut on prop and tren before, the tren helped with my strength so much it ended up kinda turning into a power lifting cycle, yeah i cleaned my diet up a bit and added some cardio but i think i ate too many carbs

    at the end of 9 weeks i was a 1lb lighter i think but i did get to pretty low bf (still had some fat on my hips and ass but from the waist up i looked ripped), id guess i dropped 6lb fat and gained 5lb muscle but those really are guesses

    one thing to mention though, i had a hard time recovering from the tren even after hcg, pct was awful, i felt like crying all the time and had no motivation to do anything

    why not do prop/var? or prop/winny?




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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/12 13:36:46 (permalink)
    not as much, tbh though i dont think i would have got as strong if i had have cut carbs more and done more cardio

    var is meant to give good strength gains but i havent tried it, winny will make you look real hard but it can dry your joints, i never had any problems at 50 a day though
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    RE: prop or var? 2006/07/13 20:40:48 (permalink)
    i added some winny to end of my last test e cycle was not that impressed but it really that why going for all out cut.

    What pct would you run with prop / tren cycle, just standard one?

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