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hello,

just a few questions i have that maybe some of you could answer?

1. is it making your muscle fail that makes it grow? by this i mean, lifting a weight that you strain to lift 8 times in a set and you fail in eg sets 3 and 4? I know rest and diet all play a part.

2. following on, would it be better to lift a heavier weight eg for me a heavy bench press is 45kg. would it be better for me to lift this weight 4 sets of 3-4 reps - im not sure i could even do 3-4 reps! or is it better to do as i am currently, 4 sets of 8 reps at 37kg? again linked to question 1 - what option would place more strain on the muscle in order for it to get bigger?

3. pain is normal and expected? however as a rule of thumb should i expect to work myself hard enough so that i will have pain the following 2-4days?

i have more questions but ive forgotten them at the moment...

cheers!

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    Yib
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    RE: questions 2004/03/08 22:56:06 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by soapbar

    hello,

    just a few questions i have that maybe some of you could answer?

    1. is it making your muscle fail that makes it grow? by this i mean, lifting a weight that you strain to lift 8 times in a set and you fail in eg sets 3 and 4? I know rest and diet all play a part.

    2. following on, would it be better to lift a heavier weight eg for me a heavy bench press is 45kg. would it be better for me to lift this weight 4 sets of 3-4 reps - im not sure i could even do 3-4 reps! or is it better to do as i am currently, 4 sets of 8 reps at 37kg? again linked to question 1 - what option would place more strain on the muscle in order for it to get bigger?

    3. pain is normal and expected? however as a rule of thumb should i expect to work myself hard enough so that i will have pain the following 2-4days?

    i have more questions but ive forgotten them at the moment...

    cheers!

    david*



    1. in order for the muscle to grow, u lift heavy weight to make little tears in the muscle so that when it repairs it can get bigger...thats putting it bluntly....anyways u have to shock ur central nervous system for growth....ur diet plays a big role in growing and so does rest...u repair and grow while u sleep...the food u eat provides whats is needed to do this...energy, building blocks of protein...and all those triggers to release hormones and stuff....i cant really get into detail [:0]

    2.if u cant lift the weight then go slightly lighter and then gradually build up...its better, for mass, to lift a heavier weight for lower reps than to use a lighter weight for multiple reps...

    3.well its not supposed to be pain...just DOMS, which is delayed onset muscle soreness...just beacuase u r sore doesnt necessarily mean that u will grow...dont overtrain...or undertrain...both are extremes....keep it in the middle
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    RE: questions 2004/03/09 10:04:04 (permalink)
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    cheers!

    thanks for the info - i might start doing the heavier weight at 4 sets of 4 reps.

    thanks again!

    david*
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    RE: questions 2004/03/09 10:38:00 (permalink)
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    Soapbar, check out Cashmans guide for beginners, this has a great starting routine, that will help the body get in the groove for more advanced training! Here is the link http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41320
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    RE: questions 2004/03/09 11:12:25 (permalink)
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    spooky - cheers!

    ive already got my routine sorted i just wanted to understand how it all works.

    thanks anyway!

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    RE: questions 2004/03/11 22:03:13 (permalink)
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    i need some help.i have been lifting for almost 3years and i have had very slow gains.i have tryed no2 ,t bomb and now im on m-stake and creatine.i work out 6 days a week depending on my work scheldule.i just need advice for more growth.my body weight 195lbs.i also would like to know what i could do to make my bench press go up,im stuck at 285.can any one help me??????????????
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    RE: questions 2004/03/11 22:44:00 (permalink)
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    quote:
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    i work out 6 days a week



    your answers in your question. 6 days a week? jeez dude no wonder you havent grown alot.
    i recommend you goto the gym 3 times a week. 4max, do 3-4 sets of heavy weight at low resp (6-8).

    whats your current diet and training routine?

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    RE: questions 2004/03/12 13:33:23 (permalink)
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    In answer to question 3, you refer to it as pain. I sincerely hope you are not experiencing actual pain. DOMS should be a muscle soreness, which feels as if the muscle has been fatigued but certainly not painful!
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    RE: questions 2004/03/12 15:41:33 (permalink)
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    quote:
    In answer to question 3, you refer to it as pain. I sincerely hope you are not experiencing actual pain. DOMS should be a muscle soreness, which feels as if the muscle has been fatigued but certainly not painful!


    my muscles are sore after a heavy work out. not bones or anything just muscles. ie if i work my tris hard they are sore the follwoing days. sore when i stretch, sore when they are used, sore when i press or kneed them.

    the worst i have ever experienced this was after my induction which resulted in me having to pull doors open with two arms, flushing the toilet with two arms and generaly trying not to stretch.

    cheers for the link dg (same initials as me!)

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    RE: questions 2004/03/12 23:29:01 (permalink)
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    no pain no gain.....not necessarily, im afraid thats not true, it has come up before and just because u get DOMS, it doesnt mean that ur going to grow and vice versa
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