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2009/08/01 17:37:25 (permalink)
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something funny going on...

right, been blasting for the last 4 weeks after a good 12 weeks cruising as i'm going on holiday

using 600 pw prop
          450 pw tren ace
          450 mast prop
          .5 adex ed
          400 mcg t4
          25 t3


and i have noticed, fck all!

have lost approx 5 lbs, weight initially went up 4lbs just after starting but its dropped off,

diet is tight, have been experimenting with more carbs than usual when i diet as all i seem to be losing is size.

cardio is 1 hr unfueled every morning which has always served me well

i'm not getting pumped when training, i've got near enough no motivation to train. strength is dropping steadily. my moods are really down which is completely the opposite to what i'm normally like when running a decent dose

the only thing i can think of is that the gear is bunk but this is a well trusted lab and a lab that i've never had problems with before.

not best impressed going on holdiday wednesday and i look almost like i've never set foot in a gym i seem to have completely lost muscle, fair enoguh a little fat but no where near the results i had last year from using same diet, cardio + training and half the gear!



Balls are for pansies!!
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    leerc
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/01 17:49:31 (permalink)
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    t4 and t3 combination and maybe bunk gear imo ive lost muscle on 300 t4 and felt utter sh1te aswell so 400 plus 25 t3 is going to have that effect imo
    post edited by leerc - 2009/08/01 17:50:50

    started at 68kg
    PB,s
    bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single
    deadlift: 5 reps 245kg 1RM 260kg @knee height
    squat: 200 kg 2 reps
    clean and press 100kg 2 rep 110 1RM
    weight:108kg bf 14%~
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    bert.edge
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/01 21:42:08 (permalink)
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    personally drop the t3/t4 if i were you. See what happens mate


    Ain't gonna get big being small
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 10:19:12 (permalink)
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    Its a hard one this to work out as it may all come together over time which you don't have ,or having blood work done which could give an inlight into it but thats 100% out off the window.
     
    As said dropping the T3/T4 is about the only thing that could make you loose the weight.
    Have a good hoilday.
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    All4n
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 11:15:18 (permalink)
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    It's not hard at all imo. The gear is bunk. And if this is the lab i'm thinking of then i'm not even suggesting your gear is fake, just bunk. Unfortunately.

    Can you name the lab mate? I don't think that would against the rules as it will help others obviously by avoiding said products. Poss post up pics just in case of course. But all from what i've heard/read recently, i'm erring on the side of "real but fake" gear if you know what i mean. The lab was trusted but many things recently have lead me to completely loose trust in them.

    Of course if it's a different lab i'm thinking of please ignore the above
    post edited by All4n - 2009/08/02 11:17:48
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    Dieselboy
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 11:34:34 (permalink)
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    i'm not going to put the lab name up until i've spoken to the source involved

    BUT the vial has been in the freezer for the last 4 hours and NOTHING has separated from the oil, its the right colour for tren but i've had no tren  effects

    i've used far more t3/t4 with before with no muscle wastage on half the anabolics

    Balls are for pansies!!
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 12:10:58 (permalink)
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    its definitely real too i've dealt with enough of it to know

    real but bunk seems to be the case


    Balls are for pansies!!
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    leerc
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 12:44:41 (permalink)
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    the freezer test means fook all imo, the oil will go cloudy hormone or no hormone
    it would be good for everyone to know what lab your reffering to so we could avoid it in future

    started at 68kg
    PB,s
    bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single
    deadlift: 5 reps 245kg 1RM 260kg @knee height
    squat: 200 kg 2 reps
    clean and press 100kg 2 rep 110 1RM
    weight:108kg bf 14%~
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    Dieselboy
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 13:43:04 (permalink)
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    BUT mate the oil didnt go cloudy at all, was just fecking cold

    Balls are for pansies!!
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 15:11:22 (permalink)
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    yep what was the lab mate
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 18:52:39 (permalink)
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    i'm not naming the lab until i've heard back from the distributor

    Balls are for pansies!!
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 19:34:13 (permalink)
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    sorry but whats the diff between bunk and fake?
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 20:21:15 (permalink)
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    my guess is its wildcat

    looks at the dose    600 prop/ 450 tren ace / 450 masteron

    that fits their product of  TNT   prop 100mg/tren ace 75mg/mast 75mg   per ML      ratio which fits perfectly to the above  and works out @6ml

    im cancelling my order for now based on this!

    to many bad reports for my liking now and all of recent :(
     
     
    post edited by gtir - 2009/08/02 20:24:04
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 20:31:55 (permalink)
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    I hope it isnt them as they are my lab of choice at the moment
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 20:34:53 (permalink)
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    savageJ

    sorry but whats the diff between bunk and fake?


    In this case it means that altho the gear is produced by the actual lab it is supposed to be produced by the gear is not what it is supposed to be. Basically a lab that is producing products that do not contain what they say they contain. The only reason why i would see this happening is if the lab is going tits up/about to close so trying to make as much money as possible before they shut up shop. Then probably reopen under another name but most being non the wiser. You could hazard a guess some of the "new on the scene" labs right now could well be in fact the same lab in question.
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 20:39:29 (permalink)
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    gtir my thought exactly, i hope not tho considering the amount of WC gear i have
    post edited by leerc - 2009/08/02 20:44:41

    started at 68kg
    PB,s
    bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single
    deadlift: 5 reps 245kg 1RM 260kg @knee height
    squat: 200 kg 2 reps
    clean and press 100kg 2 rep 110 1RM
    weight:108kg bf 14%~
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    gtir
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/02 20:52:54 (permalink)
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    im not happy and going to cancel my order  

    i think ive just caught this lab at the wrong time, 6 months ago it was nothing but positive

    my guess and i must stress ""GUESS"" is it going under like ALL4N has said and its recent batches will be nothing more than olive oil or very underdosed gear
     
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/03 00:15:27 (permalink)
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    Ive been using WC for a while and cant say better things about them.  Is all this rumours or have ppl got any real evidence
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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/03 03:11:28 (permalink)
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    i think its the recent stuff were talking about as in last couple of months

    no one doubts the stuff from last year/early this year worked great

    recent lots have been getting bad reports

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    Re:something funny going on... 2009/08/03 10:01:35 (permalink)
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    Just on injectables or tabs aswell?
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